[Global_education_committee] [Owasp-leaders] OWASP Academies.

Sebastien Gioria sebastien.gioria at owasp.org
Sat Oct 23 08:37:37 EDT 2010


Hi,

Actually, I talk with them to be an academic supporter and have proposed a course on WebAppSec (outside OWASP but it could be OWASP course when we have one...)

Them take a decision for the next academic year (usaully decision will be in April/May 2011 for course in end 2011)


On Oct 22, 2010, at 6:15 PM, Sandra Paiva wrote:

> Hi Sebastien,
>  
> I think that your question below is definitely one of the many that will have to be discussed and clarified in the process of creating this new area of work. I have been studying the Global Education Committee page and have noticed that there is work already done that seems to be moving into this direction.
>  
> In my view, throughout this discussion process various things will have to be defined – these are some of them but I am sure that many more will come to the table:
> - how the work already done by the GEC relates to the concept of the OWASP Academies,
> - in which areas do these two areas overlap and how do we unify them,
> - how can we move forward on the attempt of consolidating the relationships already established with Universities,
> - how do we build a way to penetrate Academic Institutions’ curricula and course structure,
> - what type of collaboration will we provide to the universities and in what terms – do we suggest OWASP Project leader’s participation as trainers on the modules related to OWASP? Do we expand the GEC’s idea of Training the Trainers who will, in the Universities, give the OWASP related courses?
> - can we create conditions to have this training paid for by the Universities so as to promote an area of income to OWASP and the Project leaders involved?
> - what do we expect from the universities in return?
>  
> We have already situations where some sort of collaboration with different Academic institutions has been established – the experience of those involved will surely be extremely helpful for the discussion.
>  
> I think that if we could brainstorm on this,  formulating questions and trying to find good answers to give them, gathering the feeling and experience of all from our community interested and willing to be involved, we would be able to go to the Summit with the basis for a productive work session from which some guidelines and concrete points of action could be drawn.
>  
> Just my 2 cents.
>  
> Sebastien, regarding the examples you pointed out below, may I ask what steps is the France Chapter taking with the Bordeaux University? Do you think it would be useful if I get involved? I would like to, if you don’t see a problem with that.    
>  
> Sandra
>  
>  
> Sandra Paiva
> OWASP Training Manager
>  
> De: Sebastien Gioria [mailto:sebastien.gioria at owasp.org] 
> Enviada: quinta-feira, 21 de Outubro de 2010 15:52
> Para: Sandra Paiva
> Cc: Eoin Keary; global_education_committee at lists.owasp.org; Tom Brennan
> Assunto: Re: [Owasp-leaders] OWASP Academies.
>  
> Just to be clear,
>  
> What's the differences between OWASP education supporter and futur OWASP academies ? 
>  
> We (France) have ISEP as a supporter, and we are in the process with another university (Bordeaux France) for setting up a Course on WebAppSec.
>  
> Is this an academie ? Or could this be count as a supporter ? 
>  
>  
> S.
>  
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> Sebastien GIORIA  - sebastien.gioria at owasp.org
> French OWASP Leader
> OWASP Global Education Committee Member
> GSM: +33 (0)6 23 04 00 51
>  
> On Oct 21, 2010, at 4:17 PM, Sandra Paiva wrote:
> 
> 
> Dear all,
>  
> I have been asked by the OWASP Board to start off the process of designing and building a new concept that will be closely linked to the training activities promoted by OWASP and that intends to take this area one step further.
>  
> The idea is to create what we will call OWASP Academies –  http://www.owasp.org/index.php/OWASP_Academies.
>  
> The OWASP Academies will be a frame under which work should be done with Universities, Polytechnic Institutes, IT Schools and other Academic institutions with a view to establish solid relationships and develop with these organisms ways to collaborate and participate in the design of courses focused on web application security.
>  
> OWASP has the knowledge and critical mass to give an invaluable input to any Academy focusing on this area – both by contributing with its expertise in the definition of curricula and course contents that explore and study the web security field and by making available to the Academy its pool of interested and willing security experts as trainers.
>  
> As mentioned above, this concept is just at its beginning and we do not have, as of yet, a clear methodology or set of rules to implement what hopefully will be a new area of work for OWASP. What is clear, however, is that to make this happen we will need your input and ideas, your energy and your initiative. Moreover, as we are planning to include this discussion in one of the Working Sessions to be held in the upcoming OWASP Summit 2011, this would be the perfect timing to gather your input and contributions.
>  
> Being so, if you have contacts within your local academic communities and would like to be involved in the design and development of this  concept, please do get back to me with your thoughts!
>  
> I am looking forward to hearing from you!
>  
> Regards,
> Sandra
>  
>  
> Sandra Paiva
> OWASP Training Manager
>  
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