[Global_education_committee] [Owasp-board] [GPC] Online Committee member questionaire

Seba seba at owasp.org
Mon Sep 21 13:47:24 EDT 2009


no problem.I am also on the GPC list :-)
Everything is open in OWASP

Seba

On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 7:37 PM, dinis cruz <dinis.cruz at owasp.org> wrote:

> Opps, that went first to the Global education committee :)
> Doesn't matter, it is all OWASP :)
>
> Dinis
>
> 2009/9/21 dinis cruz <dinis.cruz at owasp.org>
>
> Jason, I understand your worries, but this questionnaire and the 'public
>> review of OWASP leadership' performance is also very important to build a
>> strong OWASP community.
>> Remember that as the value of being associated with OWASP (as a project
>> leader, chapter leader, committee member or board member) grows, the more we
>> have to make sure that the people who can claim such leadership tag DO
>> deserve that tag. And if we DON'T do that, the value of OWASP leadership
>> gets diluted to the average of the lowest-common-denominator of those
>> leaders.
>>
>> We (OWASP) need to do this type of review for all leadership positions.
>> The reason we are starting with the Committee members is because it is the
>> 'easier' of them all (i.e. when compared to chapters, projects and board)
>>
>> Once we get this review right, the next in line is the review of the
>> Chapter's leadership. Remember that if there are any problems raised by this
>> review, those problems WERE ALREADY THERE, and are time-bombs that WILL
>> explode in the future (by raising the problems earlier (via the
>> questionnaire), we hopefully defuse some of those issues and will be able to
>> handle them in a professional, independent and transparent way).
>>
>> What I like about this 'public review' is that it allows for a transparent
>> analysis of what is going on, and allows OWASP to promote the great work
>> done by the (in this case) selected Committee individuals (one of the
>> outcomes that I would like to see at the end of this questionnaire is a list
>> of '*Outstanding work performed by Committee'* members, so that we
>> (OWASP) *c**an publicly thank them** (and their employers)* for their
>> time, effort, energy and deliverables (Jason, I expect to see you on this
>> list :) )
>>
>> We can talk about this tonight, but I really don't want to cover the WHY
>> and prefer to focus on the HOW.
>>
>> One point I would like to stress, is that when Matt (who volunteered to
>> take this task) and Paulo execute this, they will do it as representatives
>> of the 'OWASP Board' and not as GPC members.
>>
>> Dinis
>>
>> 2009/9/21 Jason Li <jason.li at owasp.org>
>>
>> Before we dive into this, I think we need to start playing the PR game
>>> with our committee.
>>> We're already getting flack on the leaders list based on the project
>>> assessments.
>>>
>>> This committee member evaluation doesn't really come under the
>>> responsibility of the GPC and given the current perception, I don't think
>>> it's in our interests to associate ourselves as the managers or purveyor's
>>> of this evaluation The committee member evaluation proposal, while
>>> necessary, is going up the same line of adding overhead and bureaucracy to
>>> OWASP.
>>>
>>> The GPC should not be seen as a committee that just sits around and makes
>>> things more complicated for everyone without adding any value.
>>>
>>> Of course I know that's not what we do - but what we're perceived to do
>>> is almost as important as what we actually do when it comes to fostering a
>>> strong OWASP community.
>>>
>>> -Jason
>>>
>>> On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 1:02 PM, dinis cruz <dinis.cruz at owasp.org>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Matt and Paulo
>>>> On the topic of
>>>> https://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?formkey=ckdDbXE0bkxPM3dkbDZvSmFNWVBGcnc6MAwe need to beta test this before we send it to all Committee members.
>>>>
>>>> Btw, Paulo (or Matt), you have the emails of all current Committee
>>>> members?
>>>>
>>>> Note: We must make sure Kate is involved in this, since managing the
>>>> Committee members is part of her world :)
>>>>
>>>> Dinis
>>>>
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>>>
>>
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