[Global_education_committee] Fw: Training Fees

fabio.e.cerullo at aib.ie fabio.e.cerullo at aib.ie
Tue Sep 8 04:52:55 EDT 2009


Thanks for the reply Seba. I absolutely agree that this is not an easy 
discussion and I'm sharing it with the rest of the GEC 'gang' :)

here is an idea:

companies pay usd 5000 to become OWASP supporters, however the benefits 
are not 'very tangible' in my opinion... even worse in a recession period.

so, we could offer them an amount of 'X' trainings per year to their 
developers which could be provided by 'endorsed OWASP trainers'

what do you think guys?

Fabio 

----- Forwarded by Fabio E Cerullo/IR/AIB on 08/09/2009 09:45 -----


Seba <seba at owasp.org>
Sent by: sebastien.deleersnyder at gmail.com
07/09/2009 22:46
 
        To:     fabio.e.cerullo at aib.ie
        cc:     kate.hartmann at owasp.org
        Subject:        Re: Training Fees




Fabio,

Sorry - for late reply.
Not the first time this question pops up.

Before setting up OWASP trainings towards external organisations, I think 
we need to discuss this in the GEC.

I think we should come to a list of 'endorsed OWASP trainers' with a good 
reputation that re-invest their training experience in OWASP education 
projects.
We should also find a way to have organisation that receive OWASP training 
from endorsed trainers to become OWASP supporter, without becoming a 
'commercial' training institute.

not an easy discussion, but if you want we can put this on the GEC mailing 
list?

regards

Seba

On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 4:03 PM, <fabio.e.cerullo at aib.ie> wrote:

Hi Kate/Seba, 

I've been asked to provide some web app training (eg. Webgoat/Webscarab) 
externally however I came across two different issues: 

1) Fees: I don't think we could charge fees to company 'X' for providing a 
1-day OWASP related training, right ? However I think we could ask for a 
contribution in terms of traveling/expenses. Would this be appropiate? 

2) Invoices: I don't have any invoices I could provide to this company... 
however I was thinking if it would be possible for OWASP to provide an 
invoice and we split this 'contribution' between OWASP and myself in case 
I decide to go ahead? 

Any comments/thoughts are more than welcome. 

Thank you, 

Fabio Cerullo
Divisional Information Security 
Bankcentre D1, 
Ballsbridge,
Dublin 4,
Ireland.

Tel: +353 1 772 6309
Email: fabio.e.cerullo at aib.ie
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