[Global_conference_committee] Request for Sarah to SupportAppSec LATAM

Mark Bristow mark.bristow at owasp.org
Tue Jul 19 11:55:34 EDT 2011


Mark - Approve
Ben - Approve
Lucas - Approve
Mohd - Approve
John -
Richard -
Ralph - Approve
Cassio -
Neil -

That's 5 approve, this motion carries.

On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 10:47 AM, Ralph Durkee <rd at rd1.net> wrote:

>  I vote in favor of GConfComm providing the 50% travel/time.
>
> -- Ralph Durkee
>
> On 7/19/2011 10:09 AM, Mark Bristow wrote:
>
> Correct,
>
>  Sarah is already slated to go to AppSecLATAM to support some of the
> Chapter Committee events, what we are looking at is if the conferences
> committee wishes to provide 50% of her travel/time (out of the time we have
> already booked for Sarah) so that she can provide direct, operational
> support for the conference as well.  Were talking about a $1000 investment,
> to help the AppSec LATAM team out, which our GCC Liasion budget should be
> able to accomodate.
>
>  -Mark
>
> On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 5:42 AM, L. Gustavo C. Barbato <
> lgbarbato at owasp.org> wrote:
>
>> Hey Cassio,
>>
>>     the main main main point here is other. The point is not having us
>> using "our" money to expense that but having OWASP making an investment in
>> our region strategically in order to have a great conference even though in
>> case of "profit" this would go back to OWASP's pocket. Indirectlly OWASP
>> would be paying on the same way.
>>
>>
>>  All,
>>
>>  I, honestely, wouldn't like to compromise OWASP's budget because I know
>> sometimes we have to make more priority investments to meet/achieve very
>> well defined goals. We that work as an internal security guy know a lot
>> about it and sometimes it becomes frustrating.
>>
>>  So let's go strict to the point without having to write a romance to
>> justify/explain my opinion.
>>
>>  First of all, I would like to say that know the answer from my questions
>> would be on a spreadsheet in some place but please help me proving
>> information direct on the body of next reply -- a simple copy-and-paste
>> operation.
>>
>>   My questions are:
>>
>>  1) how much money does OWASP have in the pocket nowadays?
>>
>>
>>  2) what are the plans to use/invest all of it?
>>
>>
>>  3) what would be the ROI of every single investment already planned? ( I
>> know that not necessarialy the ROI has to be more money )
>>
>>
>>  I think with those answers I would be more comfortable in receiving the
>> information that OWASP can not invest in AppSec Latam. I can guarantee that
>> if numbers and explanations are accurate, close to that or at least
>> persuasive , I will accept very well the answer... honestly.
>>
>>  Please feel free to copy the rest of the Board.
>> Gustavo.
>>
>>
>>
>> Cassio Goldschmidt <cassio at owasp.org> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Not sure I understand what the voting is about.
>>
>> - Do I want Sarah to help us with the conference? Yes.
>>
>> - Will AppSec LatAm be able to pay for her expenses? Right now the answer
>> is *no* but I do hope to work the numbers out with the conference
>> organization in the next two weeks to change this around as I previously
>> mentioned.
>> I definitely welcome GCC's assistance and expertise to organize the event
>> but unless someone has a "*Deus ex machina*", I don't think this is a
>> matter of voting but a matter of balance sheet. If another committee will be
>> paying for her expenses, why is GCC voting?
>>
>> Cassio
>>
>>
>>   On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 5:18 PM, Mark Bristow <mark.bristow at owasp.org>wrote:
>>
>>
>>> So far we have
>>> Mark - Approve
>>> Ben - Approve
>>> Lucas - Approve
>>> Mohd - Approve
>>> John -
>>> Richard -
>>> Ralph -
>>> Cassio -
>>> Neil -
>>>
>>>  Please all enter your votes
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 10:13 PM, Dave Wichers <dave.wichers at owasp.org>wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Right now, in terms of OWASP finances, OWASP is looking at a serious
>>>> deficit
>>>> for 2011. As such, that is making it difficult to consider hiring Sarah
>>>> as a
>>>>  full time OWASP employee, never mind sending her around the world to
>>>>  conferences.
>>>>
>>>>  As such, I don't think OWASP's current economic situation supports this
>>>>  unless the conference itself pays for her travel.
>>>>
>>>>  I agree that it would 'be nice', but I don't think it's currently
>>>>  economically feasible for us to do this.
>>>>
>>>>  -Dave
>>>>
>>>>  -----Original Message-----
>>>>  From: global_conference_committee-bounces at lists.owasp.org
>>>>  [mailto:global_conference_committee-bounces at lists.owasp.org] On Behalf
>>>> Of
>>>>  Lucas Ferreira
>>>>  Sent: Friday, July 15, 2011 10:04 PM
>>>>  To: fazli at owasp.org
>>>>  Cc: global_conference_committee-bounces at lists.owasp.org;
>>>>  global_conference_committee; L. Gustavo C. Barbato
>>>>
>>>>  Subject: Re: [Global_conference_committee] Request for Sarah to
>>>> SupportAppSec LATAM
>>>>
>>>>  I agree. This is OWASP as a platform, enabling conference teams...
>>>>
>>>>  Lucas
>>>>
>>>>  On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 22:42, Mohd Fazli Azran <fazli at owasp.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>  > They would be good if GCC can sent representative to each global
>>>> appsec to
>>>>  support more on the events and help local chapter to planning and
>>>> leverage
>>>>  their experience. We should support it.
>>>>  >
>>>>  > Mohd Fazli Azran
>>>>  > Sent by my BlackCerry® Smartphone powered by Wireless DIGImon
>>>>  >
>>>>  > -----Original Message-----
>>>>  > From: Cassio Goldschmidt <cassio at owasp.org>
>>>>  > Sender: global_conference_committee-bounces at lists.owasp.org
>>>>  > Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 18:31:58
>>>>  > To: Jason Li<jason.li at owasp.org>
>>>>  > Cc: L. Gustavo C. Barbato<lgbarbato at owasp.org>;
>>>>  > global_conference_committee<
>>>> global_conference_committee at lists.owasp.or
>>>>  > g>
>>>>  > Subject: Re: [Global_conference_committee] Request for Sarah to
>>>>  > Support
>>>>  >        AppSec LATAM
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Mark Bristow
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mark.bristow at owasp.org

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