[Global_conference_committee] Amendments to the recently approved GCC Governance Document (was: vote thread)

Lucas Ferreira lucas.ferreira at owasp.org
Sat Dec 18 13:28:12 EST 2010


These would be the same scenarios where a member would need to go
offline on the conference call. Instead of having someone not listen
to the discussion, an alternative would be a secret vote.

Lucas

On Saturday, December 18, 2010, dinis cruz <dinis.cruz at owasp.org> wrote:
> Can you think of the scenarious where you would need a 'secret vote'?
>
> Dinis Cruz
>
> On 18 Dec 2010, at 16:16, Lucas Ferreira <lucas.ferreira at owasp.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Regarding the need to step aside during calls, maybe secret votes
>> could be a solution. In the case more than one committee member
>> requires, we should implement secret votes. Some may argue that this
>> goes against the required openess, but I secret votes may be important
>> in some accasions.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Lucas
>>
>> On Friday, December 17, 2010, Mark Bristow <mark.bristow at owasp.org>
>> wrote:
>>>  John,
>>> Inline comments below.
>>> FYI All, Looped in the GCC list.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 10:39 AM, John Wilander <john.wilander at owasp.org
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>> 2010/12/17 Mark Bristow <mark.bristow at owasp.org>
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>> So john, some inline comments to your comments below.
>>> Also, do you approve the doc as is and want to put up separate
>>> changes, or is this a reject?  If so, we'll re-open for discussion.
>>>
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>>>
>>> I approve as long as we can discuss and get changes in there
>>> eventually.
>>> Doing it now,  Looped in the main GCC list.
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>>> I like Mark but I still think we should have a max on how many
>>> years (in a row) you can be chair. My suggestion is three years.
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>>> Fine by me.  If I got elected for 2011, would make it my last year.
>>> To be clear – I think you're doing a great job and I'm not challen
>>> ging you. But I think it's healthy to have a max. Would be good fo
>>> r the OWASP Board too. People tend to deliver their best if they k
>>> now the timeframe for their engagement and there's a natural succe
>>> ssion when people know there has to be a new leader/chair chosen.
>>> Look at American presidents vs Swedish ever-prime ministers. I muc
>>> h prefer the American "you get two terms max".
>>>
>>>
>>> A) feel free to challenge meB) I agree, some term limits are
>>> healthy to keep things fresh.  I agree on the board comment but
>>> that's for the new Governance working session that I just found out
>>> I'm in......
>>>
>>> C) I don't think that Lifetime MAXes are necessary, but i"m good
>>> with only 3 consecutive years.
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>>> We need to comment that scheduling of the meetings have to take
>>> into consideration the different time zones we're in. I constantly
>>> have trouble attending OWASP phone calls because they're in odd
>>> time of the day or night. If I have a Skype meeting until 1 am I
>>> will not do a good job the day after. Mark has been good in
>>> scheduling so far but we should have a sentence about not only
>>> fitting for instance US time zones. I suspect any Asian GCC members
>>> will have a lot to say about this.
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>>> Since a GCC member can be kicked out if not attending enough
>>> meetings the scheduling is important.
>>> I think that "Meetings will be scheduled based on the availability
>>> of the majority of the members" settles this somewhat.  This forces
>>> some type of "polling" in order to set the meeting date time.  Much
>>> like I use Doodle now for scheduling.
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>>>
>>> Yeah. As long as we don't end up in the GCC always having a
>>> majority of people in certain time zones so the majority of members
>>> constantly prefer that time zone.
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>>>
>>> This is an entirely separate problem.  I'd love to have more people
>>> from europe, asia and south america on the committee but
>>> unfortunately we haven't had many takers to date.  I think that we
>>> as a committee should not accept additional members from the US
>>> unless one resigns.
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