[Global_conference_committee] [Global_membership_committee] Conference/Chapter Revenue Splitting

Mark Bristow mark.bristow at owasp.org
Wed Dec 15 09:29:37 EST 2010

Comments forwarded on Lucas's behalf (he's on vacation and can't send as the
right user.....)

I don't like the idea of having one chapter getting so more funds then
others. For AppSec Brasil, we will have people from multiple chapters
involved and it would not be nice to have one chapter getting all the
money. Having to decide a split amongst chapters would need energy
that could be better used somewhere else.

In principle, I don't like the idea of having chapters "fighting" for
money, and we may have this in the future if the chapter split is too
high. I'm afraid collaboration may decrease in the long run. On the
oher hand, I'd like to see a solution that increases the involvement
of chapter leader in our conferences, specially to have people from
different chpaters to collaborate in conference teams.

I think that having many chapters with some money is better than
having a few chapters with a lot of money. I think we should invest
more in getting more active chapters than making a few chapters more

The fund idea seams a good solution to me.



On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 7:19 PM, Neil Matatall <neil at owasp.org> wrote:

> Well this thread has become epic and unfortunately I haven't been able
> to catch all of the ideas.  I really hope I can catch up, but why
> don't we have a conference call or discuss this at the summit (those
> not in attendance will have to be accommodated somehow)?
> Times like these make me wish my phone has an "threaded" email view :(
> On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 12:13 PM, Jason Li <jason.li at owasp.org> wrote:
> > So taking Michael's suggestion of starting fresh, I've cleared the long
> > quote of the thread.
> > As an observer to the thread, I'm going to capture what I think has been
> > mentioned so far on the thread.
> >
> > And then I'll weigh in with my humble opinion, keeping in mind that I am
> not
> > involved in the Conferences Committee, Membership Committee, Chapter
> > Committee, or the Board (in other words, I'm a nobody in this
> conversation
> > :)).
> > ----
> > Summary of Problem:
> > Where does Conference revenue go?
> > Points of Concern:
> > 1) Conferences are put on with the assistance of local chapters and
> > coordination/support from the OWASP mothership
> > 2) We want a way to reward local chapters for their help with
> > running/coordinating a conference
> > 3) We want conference attendees the option to get OWASP Memberships
> bundled
> > in with the conference
> > 4) Chapters need money to do things
> > -------
> > Now with that out of the way, my personal thoughts:
> > #4 is completely independent of Conference revenue. There are lots of
> other
> > OWASP sectors that also need money to do things (Projects and Summits for
> > example). If there is a need for Chapters to do something, then this
> should
> > be allocated out of the main OWASP mothership budget and not out of
> > Conference revenue.
> > In my view, conference revenue should go to one of three places:
> > 1) OWASP Mothership fund (where the Board can then re-allocate as needed
> to
> > support Chapters or other initiatives as appropriate)
> > 2) Local Chapter(s) supporting the conference (in order to recognize
> their
> > support)
> > 3) Conferences fund managed by the Conferences Committee
> > I'm not even sure if #3 is really necessary as that could also fall under
> > #1.
> > The only real debate is what proportion of the revenue should go into
> which
> > bucket. That's where I believe this debate originally started. All this
> > other talk about chapter needs and a chapter fund has clouded the
> > discussion.
> > -Jason
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> --
> --
> Neil

Mark Bristow
(703) 596-5175
mark.bristow at owasp.org

OWASP Global Conferences Committee Chair - http://is.gd/5MTvF
OWASP DC Chapter Co-Chair - http://is.gd/5MTwu
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