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    The speaker agreement is already very clear on the topic of
    presentation branding.<br>
    <br>
    "
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      255, 255); display: inline ! important; float: none;">Speakers are
      encouraged to include their contact information when introducing
      themselves, but may NOT include their logo on any visual and
      handout materials. Speakers are to avoid any appearance of
      commercialism in their session and presentations are to be of a
      technical or solutions emphasis."<br>
      <br>
    </span>At least 50% of all speakers I have seen violate this,
    including board members. <br>
    <br>
    The question is, do we want to enforce this policy (from Nov 2011)?<br>
    <br>
    - Jim<br>
    <br>
    <br>
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cite="mid:CAAihoGuB0+-L0_HW=DLYmJD1kZhL2AgyBByjWKriymLDLiVd_A@mail.gmail.com"
      type="cite">
      <div>A general remark from my side: only use the speaker agreement
        when in doubt.</div>
      <div>We use this agreement very pragmatically in Belgium and have
        only pointed to it upfront to speakers when we thought a certain
        speaker/topic could become a commercial talk.</div>
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      <div>Otherwise: minimize the red tape :-)</div>
      <div><br>
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      <div>--seba</div>
      <br>
      <div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 8:22 PM, Teresa
        Stevens <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
            href="mailto:teresa-ann-stevens@comcast.net">teresa-ann-stevens@comcast.net</a>></span>
        wrote:<br>
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                <div>I agree with Josh. Thanks,</div>
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                    <div>Teresa Stevens, CISSP, MSIA, PMMC</div>
                    <div>Information Security Specialist – Team Leader</div>
                    <div>San Francisco Bay Area</div>
                    <div><a moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="tel:510-842-8868" value="+15108428868"
                        target="_blank">510-842-8868</a> (home), <a
                        moz-do-not-send="true" href="tel:510-872-2187"
                        value="+15108722187" target="_blank">510-872-2187</a>
                      (cell)</div>
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                <span style="font-weight:bold">From: </span> Josh Sokol
                <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="mailto:josh.sokol@owasp.org" target="_blank">josh.sokol@owasp.org</a>><br>
                <span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span> Wed, 28
                Mar 2012 11:13:22 -0500<br>
                <span style="font-weight:bold">To: </span> Mark Bristow
                <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="mailto:mark.bristow@owasp.org" target="_blank">mark.bristow@owasp.org</a>><br>
                <span style="font-weight:bold">Cc: </span> "<a
                  moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="mailto:owasp-board@owasp.org" target="_blank">owasp-board@owasp.org</a>"
                <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="mailto:owasp-board@owasp.org" target="_blank">owasp-board@owasp.org</a>>,
                "<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="mailto:committees-chairs@lists.owasp.org"
                  target="_blank">committees-chairs@lists.owasp.org</a>"
                <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="mailto:committees-chairs@lists.owasp.org"
                  target="_blank">committees-chairs@lists.owasp.org</a>>,
                global_conference_committee <<a
                  moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="mailto:global_conference_committee@lists.owasp.org"
                  target="_blank">global_conference_committee@lists.owasp.org</a>>,
                global_chapter_committee Committee <<a
                  moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="mailto:global_chapter_committee@lists.owasp.org"
                  target="_blank">global_chapter_committee@lists.owasp.org</a>>,
                Eoin <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="mailto:eoin.keary@owasp.org" target="_blank">eoin.keary@owasp.org</a>><br>
                <span style="font-weight:bold">Subject: </span> Re:
                [Global_chapter_committee] [Global_conference_committee]
                [owasp-board] Re: [Committees-chairs] 2012 Speaker
                Agreement Update<br>
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                  I agree with what Jason said.  I see no reason why a
                  person should not be able to include a company logo in
                  a slide deck regardless of whether they are a
                  corporate member or not.  My $0.02:<br>
                  <br>
                  * If the event has a presentation template, then
                  corporate logos should be limited to only the "About
                  Me" page of the presentation.<br>
                  <br>
                  ~josh<br>
                  <br>
                  <div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 9:20
                    AM, Mark Bristow <span dir="ltr"><<a
                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="mailto:mark.bristow@owasp.org"
                        target="_blank">mark.bristow@owasp.org</a>></span>
                    wrote:<br>
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                      I think these are reasonable changes except the
                      no-logo on the "about me" slide.  I think that's
                      fine if we put a boundry on the size.  The GCC is
                      in the final process of selecting a new
                      presentation template, so this will be easy to
                      add.<br>
                      <br>
                      <div class="gmail_quote">
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                          <div>On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 12:29 PM, Eoin <span
                              dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                href="mailto:eoin.keary@owasp.org"
                                target="_blank">eoin.keary@owasp.org</a>></span>
                            wrote:<br>
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                                <div>I am happy with vendor logo as long
                                  as content isn't a vendor pitch or
                                  vendor bespoke (ip) and covers off an
                                  issue which is in the open  body of
                                  knowledge.</div>
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                                  <br>
                                  Eoin Keary
                                  <div>
                                    BCC Risk Advisory</div>
                                  <div>Owasp Global Board</div>
                                  <div><a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                      href="tel:%2B353%2087%20977%202988"
                                      value="+353879772988"
                                      target="_blank">+353 87 977 2988</a></div>
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                                    <div><br>
                                      On 27 Mar 2012, at 16:13, Jason Li
                                      <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                        href="mailto:jason.li@owasp.org"
                                        target="_blank">jason.li@owasp.org</a>>
                                      wrote:<br>
                                      <br>
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                                      <div>Agreed on the use of the
                                        template.
                                        <div><br>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>What's the purpose of the
                                          restriction on the company
                                          logo?
                                          <div><br>
                                          </div>
                                          <div>Is it an attempt to spur
                                            corporate membership? Is it
                                            meant to remove the
                                            "vendor"-ness of a talk?</div>
                                          <div><br>
                                          </div>
                                          <div>If the former, I think it
                                            actually comes across as
                                            off-putting and might have
                                            the opposite effect... If
                                            the latter, then the
                                            inclusion of the company
                                            logo if and only if they are
                                            an OWASP supporter seems
                                            overly restrictive IMHO in
                                            comparison to the goal.
                                            <div>
                                              <div><br>
                                              </div>
                                              <div>What about updating
                                                the template to include
                                                a specific place and
                                                limited small size for a
                                                logo and mandating the
                                                use of the template?
                                                That would limit how
                                                much a presenter could
                                                plaster their logo
                                                across a presentation.</div>
                                              <div><br>
                                              </div>
                                              <div>-Jason<br>
                                                <br>
                                                <div class="gmail_quote">On
                                                  Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at
                                                  9:35 AM, Tom Brennan <span
                                                    dir="ltr"><<a
                                                      moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:tomb@owasp.org" target="_blank">tomb@owasp.org</a>></span>
                                                  wrote:<br>
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                                                    <br>
                                                    Committee(s);<br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    Today OWASP utilizes
                                                    a Speaker Agreement
                                                    that outlines the
                                                    rules for
                                                    compensation of
                                                    speakers, required
                                                    templates,
                                                    audio/visual,
                                                    vulnerabilities
                                                    disclosure and a
                                                    laundry list of
                                                    other terms.<br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    The Document:  <a
                                                      moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://www.owasp.org/index.php/Speaker_Agreement" target="_blank">https://www.owasp.org/index.php/Speaker_Agreement</a><br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    With the upcoming
                                                    long list of
                                                    AppSec<Regional>,
                                                    AppSec<Global>
                                                    and chapter events
                                                     globally happening
                                                    weekly enforcement
                                                    of this policy or
                                                    event policing of
                                                    this policy is
                                                    difficult however
                                                    the spirit of the
                                                    speaker agreement in
                                                    keeping OWASP pure
                                                    to technical,
                                                    non-evil
                                                    presentations is
                                                    important. For many
                                                    firms that employee
                                                    researchers and
                                                    allow them to
                                                    present on the
                                                    company time and
                                                    include such things
                                                    as travel and
                                                    lodging to do so
                                                    they also have
                                                    policies.  One of
                                                    those policies is
                                                    many times to
                                                    utilize a standard
                                                    company slide
                                                    template while
                                                    employed with said
                                                    firm.<br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    In a attempt to
                                                    appease the
                                                    corporate overlords;
                                                    I want to make a
                                                    simple suggestion
                                                    that we modify the
                                                    template to include
                                                    the following
                                                    language and
                                                    attached logo.   For
                                                    the new folks...here
                                                    is a little OWASP
                                                    History for you in
                                                    2008 this agreement
                                                    was actually put
                                                    online  by Kate
                                                    Hartmann and Jeff
                                                    williams and Myself
                                                    as we prepared for
                                                    the AppSecUSA 2008
                                                    particularly from
                                                    the audio video
                                                    perspective as we
                                                    were going to video
                                                    tape it (1st in
                                                    OWASP History at the
                                                    time) and had other
                                                    liability issues
                                                    around 0-Day
                                                    disclosure in NYC
                                                    see edit history: <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://www.owasp.org/index.php?title=Speaker_Agreement&action=history"
                                                      target="_blank">https://www.owasp.org/index.php?title=Speaker_Agreement&action=history</a>
                                                    and at that event
                                                    there was only (1)
                                                    slide deck that was
                                                    non-compliant by my
                                                    then employer and
                                                    friend Jeremiah
                                                    Grossman as there
                                                    was not a mac
                                                    template available
                                                    <grin><br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    ---------------<br>
                                                    For your
                                                    consideration as
                                                    Conferences and
                                                    Chapter committees;<br>
                                                    ---------------<br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    RECOMMENDED CHANGE
                                                    #1<br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    "CONTENT<br>
                                                    Speakers are
                                                    encouraged to
                                                    include their
                                                    contact information
                                                    when introducing
                                                    themselves, but may
                                                    NOT include their
                                                    logo"<br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    "CONTENT"<br>
                                                    Speakers are
                                                    encouraged to
                                                    include their
                                                    contact information
                                                    when introducing
                                                    themselves and may
                                                    include a company
                                                    logo and a indicator
                                                    if there company is
                                                    a supporting
                                                    organization of
                                                    OWASP Foundation and
                                                    any projects that
                                                    they are part of"<br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    RECOMMENDED CHANGE
                                                    #2<br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    If my session
                                                    includes a
                                                    presentation, I will
                                                    use the Conference
                                                    Template (OWASP
                                                    Powerpoint template
                                                    - OWASP Keynote
                                                    Template (Mac) -
                                                    OWASP Impress
                                                    Template
                                                    (Open-/LibreOffice))
                                                    or if required to
                                                    utilize a company
                                                    slide template will
                                                    also include a OWASP
                                                    logo on each slide (<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
                                                      href="https://www.owasp.org/index.php/Marketing#Logos"
                                                      target="_blank">https://www.owasp.org/index.php/Marketing#Logos</a>)<br>
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                                                    <br>
                                                    In my opinion now
                                                    that we have
                                                    committees that are
                                                    proxy
                                                    representatives of
                                                    the owasp membership
                                                    globally, this this
                                                    agreement should be
                                                    reviewed by effected
                                                    committees
                                                    (conferences and
                                                    chapters) with input
                                                    from everyone
                                                    including
                                                    connections,
                                                    projects,
                                                    membership, eduction
                                                    and modified to meet
                                                    the growth and
                                                    spirit of the
                                                    community to attract
                                                    the best and
                                                    brightest speakers
                                                    in the world and
                                                    have minimal
                                                    restrictions.<br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    To continue this
                                                    review I have put a
                                                    copy of this full
                                                    document in the
                                                    current state in
                                                    draft/edit more in
                                                    OWASP googledocs for
                                                    everyone to review,
                                                    edit and comment on.<br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    <a
                                                      moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://docs.google.com/a/owasp.org/document/d/1OMAcnSEAElI_ENYP73gSZ4VjxG3JguMYZtt09Pi5vV8/edit"
                                                      target="_blank">https://docs.google.com/a/owasp.org/document/d/1OMAcnSEAElI_ENYP73gSZ4VjxG3JguMYZtt09Pi5vV8/edit</a><br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    We are a week away
                                                    from APPSECDC and
                                                    APPSECAPAC and then
                                                    events happening all
                                                    over 2012 worldwide
                                                    so although I
                                                    realize nothing is
                                                    FAST in a democratic
                                                    rough consensus
                                                    voting it should not
                                                    be overly complex to
                                                    start small and then
                                                    adjust.<br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    Reference Materials<br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    Other speakers
                                                    agreements to
                                                    consider in your
                                                    review of this
                                                    motion<br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    1) IEEE - <a
                                                      moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.ieee.org/publications_standards/publications/rights/index.html"
                                                      target="_blank">http://www.ieee.org/publications_standards/publications/rights/index.html</a><br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    2) BlackHat - <a
                                                      moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://www.blackhat.com/html/bh-dc-11/registration/bh-dc-11-cfp_terms.html"
                                                      target="_blank">https://www.blackhat.com/html/bh-dc-11/registration/bh-dc-11-cfp_terms.html</a><br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    3) Defcon - <a
                                                      moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://www.defcon.org/html/defcon-19/dc-19-cfp-form.html"
                                                      target="_blank">https://www.defcon.org/html/defcon-19/dc-19-cfp-form.html</a><br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    Fun Fun... but
                                                    important to not
                                                    just have a policy
                                                    as you would agree.<br>
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_______________________________________________<br>
                                                    Committees-chairs
                                                    mailing list<br>
                                                    <a
                                                      moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:Committees-chairs@lists.owasp.org" target="_blank">Committees-chairs@lists.owasp.org</a><br>
                                                    <a
                                                      moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://lists.owasp.org/mailman/listinfo/committees-chairs"
                                                      target="_blank">https://lists.owasp.org/mailman/listinfo/committees-chairs</a><br>
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