[Global_chapter_committee] [Global_conference_committee] [owasp-board] Re: [Committees-chairs] 2012 Speaker Agreement Update

Teresa Stevens teresa-ann-stevens at comcast.net
Wed Mar 28 18:22:51 UTC 2012


I agree with Josh. Thanks,

Teresa Stevens, CISSP, MSIA, PMMC
Information Security Specialist ­ Team Leader
San Francisco Bay Area
510-842-8868 (home), 510-872-2187 (cell)


From:  Josh Sokol <josh.sokol at owasp.org>
Date:  Wed, 28 Mar 2012 11:13:22 -0500
To:  Mark Bristow <mark.bristow at owasp.org>
Cc:  "owasp-board at owasp.org" <owasp-board at owasp.org>,
"committees-chairs at lists.owasp.org" <committees-chairs at lists.owasp.org>,
global_conference_committee <global_conference_committee at lists.owasp.org>,
global_chapter_committee Committee
<global_chapter_committee at lists.owasp.org>, Eoin <eoin.keary at owasp.org>
Subject:  Re: [Global_chapter_committee] [Global_conference_committee]
[owasp-board] Re: [Committees-chairs] 2012 Speaker Agreement Update

I agree with what Jason said.  I see no reason why a person should not be
able to include a company logo in a slide deck regardless of whether they
are a corporate member or not.  My $0.02:

* If the event has a presentation template, then corporate logos should be
limited to only the "About Me" page of the presentation.

~josh

On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 9:20 AM, Mark Bristow <mark.bristow at owasp.org>
wrote:
> I think these are reasonable changes except the no-logo on the "about me"
> slide.  I think that's fine if we put a boundry on the size.  The GCC is in
> the final process of selecting a new presentation template, so this will be
> easy to add.
> 
> On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 12:29 PM, Eoin <eoin.keary at owasp.org> wrote:
>> I am happy with vendor logo as long as content isn't a vendor pitch or vendor
>> bespoke (ip) and covers off an issue which is in the open  body of knowledge.
>> 
>> 
>> Eoin Keary
>> BCC Risk Advisory
>> Owasp Global Board
>> +353 87 977 2988 <tel:%2B353%2087%20977%202988>
>> 
>> 
>> On 27 Mar 2012, at 16:13, Jason Li <jason.li at owasp.org> wrote:
>> 
>>> Agreed on the use of the template.
>>> 
>>> What's the purpose of the restriction on the company logo?
>>> 
>>> Is it an attempt to spur corporate membership? Is it meant to remove the
>>> "vendor"-ness of a talk?
>>> 
>>> If the former, I think it actually comes across as off-putting and might
>>> have the opposite effect... If the latter, then the inclusion of the company
>>> logo if and only if they are an OWASP supporter seems overly restrictive
>>> IMHO in comparison to the goal.
>>> 
>>> What about updating the template to include a specific place and limited
>>> small size for a logo and mandating the use of the template? That would
>>> limit how much a presenter could plaster their logo across a presentation.
>>> 
>>> -Jason
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 9:35 AM, Tom Brennan <tomb at owasp.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Committee(s);
>>>> 
>>>> Today OWASP utilizes a Speaker Agreement that outlines the rules for
>>>> compensation of speakers, required templates, audio/visual, vulnerabilities
>>>> disclosure and a laundry list of other terms.
>>>> 
>>>> The Document:  https://www.owasp.org/index.php/Speaker_Agreement
>>>> 
>>>> With the upcoming long list of AppSec<Regional>, AppSec<Global> and chapter
>>>> events  globally happening weekly enforcement of this policy or event
>>>> policing of this policy is difficult however the spirit of the speaker
>>>> agreement in keeping OWASP pure to technical, non-evil presentations is
>>>> important. For many firms that employee researchers and allow them to
>>>> present on the company time and include such things as travel and lodging
>>>> to do so they also have policies.  One of those policies is many times to
>>>> utilize a standard company slide template while employed with said firm.
>>>> 
>>>> In a attempt to appease the corporate overlords; I want to make a simple
>>>> suggestion that we modify the template to include the following language
>>>> and attached logo.   For the new folks...here is a little OWASP History for
>>>> you in 2008 this agreement was actually put online  by Kate Hartmann and
>>>> Jeff williams and Myself as we prepared for the AppSecUSA 2008 particularly
>>>> from the audio video perspective as we were going to video tape it (1st in
>>>> OWASP History at the time) and had other liability issues around 0-Day
>>>> disclosure in NYC see edit history:
>>>> https://www.owasp.org/index.php?title=Speaker_Agreement&action=history and
>>>> at that event there was only (1) slide deck that was non-compliant by my
>>>> then employer and friend Jeremiah Grossman as there was not a mac template
>>>> available <grin>
>>>> 
>>>> ---------------
>>>> For your consideration as Conferences and Chapter committees;
>>>> ---------------
>>>> 
>>>> RECOMMENDED CHANGE #1
>>>> 
>>>> "CONTENT
>>>> Speakers are encouraged to include their contact information when
>>>> introducing themselves, but may NOT include their logo"
>>>> 
>>>> "CONTENT"
>>>> Speakers are encouraged to include their contact information when
>>>> introducing themselves and may include a company logo and a indicator if
>>>> there company is a supporting organization of OWASP Foundation and any
>>>> projects that they are part of"
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> RECOMMENDED CHANGE #2
>>>> 
>>>> If my session includes a presentation, I will use the Conference Template
>>>> (OWASP Powerpoint template - OWASP Keynote Template (Mac) - OWASP Impress
>>>> Template (Open-/LibreOffice)) or if required to utilize a company slide
>>>> template will also include a OWASP logo on each slide
>>>> (https://www.owasp.org/index.php/Marketing#Logos)
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> =======
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> In my opinion now that we have committees that are proxy representatives of
>>>> the owasp membership globally, this this agreement should be reviewed by
>>>> effected committees (conferences and chapters) with input from everyone
>>>> including connections, projects, membership, eduction and modified to meet
>>>> the growth and spirit of the community to attract the best and brightest
>>>> speakers in the world and have minimal restrictions.
>>>> 
>>>> To continue this review I have put a copy of this full document in the
>>>> current state in draft/edit more in OWASP googledocs for everyone to
>>>> review, edit and comment on.
>>>> 
>>>> https://docs.google.com/a/owasp.org/document/d/1OMAcnSEAElI_ENYP73gSZ4VjxG3
>>>> JguMYZtt09Pi5vV8/edit
>>>> 
>>>> We are a week away from APPSECDC and APPSECAPAC and then events happening
>>>> all over 2012 worldwide so although I realize nothing is FAST in a
>>>> democratic rough consensus voting it should not be overly complex to start
>>>> small and then adjust.
>>>> 
>>>> Reference Materials
>>>> 
>>>> Other speakers agreements to consider in your review of this motion
>>>> 
>>>> 1) IEEE - 
>>>> http://www.ieee.org/publications_standards/publications/rights/index.html
>>>> 
>>>> 2) BlackHat - 
>>>> https://www.blackhat.com/html/bh-dc-11/registration/bh-dc-11-cfp_terms.html
>>>> 
>>>> 3) Defcon - https://www.defcon.org/html/defcon-19/dc-19-cfp-form.html
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Fun Fun... but important to not just have a policy as you would agree.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
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>>> 
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