[Global_chapter_committee] [OWASP Israel] Open positions at IBM

Matthew Chalmers matthew.chalmers at owasp.org
Thu Sep 1 22:20:02 EDT 2011


Thank you, Tin. I'm getting really tired of the trend towards coming up with
a policy for every possible situation.

matt

On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 6:40 PM, Tin Zaw <tin.zaw at owasp.org> wrote:

> I appreciate all the inputs on this issue. My thoughts are that as
> chapter leaders, we do what is best for our local chapters and
> communities. We do constantly balance sending enough information out
> via the chapter mailing list vs. sending too much out and becoming
> spam-like. Need of information and tolerance for too much information
> vary from chapter to chapter, based on local culture and taste, and
> local chapter leaders are the best to gauge and adjust as needed.
>
> For OWASP as a whole, as long as there is no abuse going on with of
> these mailing lists -- no "daily deals" please -- we should let
> chapter leader manage their local lists.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 4:02 PM, Christian Heinrich
> <christian.heinrich at owasp.org> wrote:
> > Kate,
> >
> > I would be open to a single job posting e-mail per month which lists
> > all positions for that City/State with possibly a link country wide.
> >
> > We could leverage LinkedIn or some other service and in which case it
> > might generate revenue if OWASP acts as an agent between the candidate
> > and recruiter.
> >
> > This is an issue that I am keen to resolve i.e.
> > https://lists.owasp.org/pipermail/owasp-leaders/2011-August/006014.html
> > and I used to be the AppSec Manager for the only Australian Government
> > Endorsed Business (GEB) for employment services so I know a little bit
> > about how recruitment services work.
> >
> > On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 3:26 AM, Kate Hartmann <kate.hartmann at owasp.org>
> wrote:
> >> One opportunity that had presented itself was the challenge to make the
> jobs page more internationally user friendly.  As it is designed now, it
> really favors US companies.
> >>
> >> Does anyone have ideas on how to appeal to non US companies?  If we can
> do this then we can reduce chapter mailing list traffic as well as open up
> the recruiting scope for owasp followers.
> >>
> >> Kate Hartmann
> >> OWASP Operations Director
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sep 1, 2011, at 11:55 AM, Tin Zaw <tin.zaw at owasp.org> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Thanks Tom. I will discuss this with the committee. I have some
> >>> thoughts on it as well, but let's hear some input first.
> >>>
> >>> Do you know if Ofer is coming to MN?
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 8:45 AM, Tom Brennan <tomb at owasp.org> wrote:
> >>>> Fyi
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Begin forwarded message:
> >>>>
> >>>> From: Ofer Maor <ofer.maor at owasp.org>
> >>>> Date: September 1, 2011 11:29:26 AM EDT
> >>>> To: Tom Brennan <tomb at owasp.org>
> >>>> Subject: Re: [OWASP Israel] Open positions at IBM
> >>>>
> >>>> Anyone that has a job opening, IN ISRAEL, that requires APPSEC
> expertise,
> >>>> and publishes it on behalf of the company (full details so no
> recruiters
> >>>> hiding the job details) can send this opening once to the list. If
> they have
> >>>> multiple jobs they ahould do it in one email and not a separate email
> each
> >>>> day.
> >>>> To make sure it is clear we r talking about real Appsec jobs in
> israel. For
> >>>> instance if Imperva or seeker  needs a developer there is little
> interest to
> >>>> the list. Developers of waf/scanner are usually not Appsec experts so
> even
> >>>> if it is the Appsec vendor then no go. However if Imperva needs a
> security
> >>>> researcher then go ahead.
> >>>> This is not limited to sponsors. Anyone that has a job opening meeting
> the
> >>>> criteria above is permitted to submit.
> >>>> Ofer.
> >>>> // Sent from my iPhone
> >>>> On Sep 1, 2011, at 18:15, Tom Brennan <tomb at owasp.org> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> So just to be clear then you are saying that anyone can post jobs to
> your
> >>>> mailing list including recruiters and companies in the trade and or
> firms
> >>>> that want to hire employees yes?
> >>>>
> >>>> On Sep 1, 2011, at 11:14 AM, Ofer Maor wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> This is not commercial promotion nor marketing purposes. We do not
> allow
> >>>> product pitches. Just job listings of Appsec positions.
> >>>>  This is opportunities for people to find jobs in application
> security. I
> >>>> have no intention of changing this policy that has been valued by our
> >>>> crowd.
> >>>>
> >>>> Ofer.
> >>>> // Sent from my iPhone
> >>>> On Sep 1, 2011, at 18:07, Tom Brennan <tomb at owasp.org> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> It is the policy of all mailing lists worldwide not to be used for
> >>>> commercial promotion, marketing purposes.
> >>>> Thanks in advance for helping set that tone at your chapter as well.
> >>>>
> >>>> On Sep 1, 2011, at 11:05 AM, Ofer Maor wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Hey Tom,
> >>>>
> >>>> In the future – if you have problems with my  policies, please talk to
> me
> >>>> about it rather than to the sender who sent his message within the
> policy.
> >>>>
> >>>> Ofer.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> From: Tom Brennan [mailto:tomb at owasp.org]
> >>>> Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2011 17:05
> >>>> To: Omri Weisman
> >>>> Cc: Ofer Maor
> >>>> Subject: Re: [OWASP Israel] Open positions at IBM
> >>>>
> >>>> Omri,
> >>>>
> >>>> Please utilize the OWASP Job's posting area and refrain from using
> chapter
> >>>> mailing lists as marketing or recruiting tools
> >>>>
> >>>> https://www.owasp.org/index.php/OWASP_Jobs
> >>>>
> >>>> Thank you in advance.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Sep 1, 2011, at 8:06 AM, Omri Weisman wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> IBM is looking for top talent in APPLICATION SECURITY RESEARCH.
> >>>> We are looking for the best, smartest, most passionate people with a
> strong
> >>>> security background to join our security research group in Herzliya.
> >>>>
> >>>> Join the team building the world's best security assessment solutions.
> >>>> Perform
> >>>> innovative security research. Help uncover security problems in
> customers'
> >>>> solutions
> >>>> and in IBM's own software. Influence teams to adopt proper security
> >>>> practices.
> >>>>
> >>>> If you have what it takes, we'll be happy to hear from you.
> >>>> Thank you!
> >>>>
> >>>> Omri Weisman
> >>>> Manager, Security Research
> >>>> IBM Rational Software, Israel
> >>>> weisman at il.ibm.com_______________________________________________
> >>>> Owasp-israel mailing list
> >>>> Owasp-israel at lists.owasp.org
> >>>> https://lists.owasp.org/mailman/listinfo/owasp-israel
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Tin Zaw, CISSP, CSSLP
> >>> Chapter Leader and President, OWASP Los Angeles Chapter
> >>> Chair, OWASP Global Chapter Committee
> >>> Google Voice: (213) 973-9295
> >>> LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/tinzaw
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> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Regards,
> > Christian Heinrich
> > http://www.owasp.org/index.php/user:cmlh
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Tin Zaw, CISSP, CSSLP
> Chapter Leader and President, OWASP Los Angeles Chapter
> Chair, OWASP Global Chapter Committee
> Google Voice: (213) 973-9295
> LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/tinzaw
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