[Global_chapter_committee] Fwd: Global_chapter_committee post from exsi at pge.com requires approval

Seba seba at owasp.org
Wed May 18 15:17:33 EDT 2011


Hi Matt,

you don't have to excuse for not being active. your input is appreciated.

I share your frustation with Beaurocratci Red Tape "govern by committee".
OWASP should be a fun community to donate a couple of your hours free time
to.

That's why we should try to provide support to chapters and be there when
they need us.
I don't support 'over-seeing' or poking into local chapters, unless issues
have been raised by people from that chapter.

Let's reflect that in the chapter handbook and with our actions


regards

--Seba

On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 8:23 PM, Matthew Chalmers <
matthew.chalmers at owasp.org> wrote:

> Do (any of) you think this was done because of Tom's message from a few
> days ago regarding no activity on the website?
>
> I don't like it when committee or board members stick their noses in
> individual chapters' business. I have always thought that OWASP's chapter
> leader requirements (those independent of general OWASP
> requirements/policies/philosophies) are more guidelines than rules or laws.
> Just because a chapter isn't good about posting to their web page or doesn't
> have one meeting every three months doesn't mean the chapter needs new
> leadership, or reorganization, or having their 'charter' yanked. The
> chapter's mailing list subscribers and meeting attendees (dare we call them
> 'members'?) should be the judge of whether their chapter is succeeding.
>
> I'm sorry I haven't been active in email or on our last call for the last
> month or two but I've been growing more and more frustrated since the Summit
> with regard to what I perceive as a bureaucratic and draconian shift in
> OWASP mentality/philosophy. I think many people have lost sight of what is
> 'fair' in favor of what is 'technically correct' and OWASP is collectively
> risking losing one of our undocumented core values: friendliness. Giving
> people the benefit of the doubt before calling them out for some trivial
> mistake.
>
> --matt
>
> On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 12:18 PM, Seba <seba at owasp.org> wrote:
>
>> FYI
>>
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>> From: "Stevens, Teresa" <ExSi at pge.com>
>> To: Cory Scott <cory at crazypenguin.com>, Mandeep Khera <mkhera at owasp.org>,
>> Sam Bowne <sam.bowne at gmail.com>, Tom Brennan <tomb at owasp.org>, Dan Boneh
>> <dabo at cs.stanford.edu>, Dinis Cruz <dinis at ddplus.net>, Greg Reber <
>> greg.reber at astechconsulting.com>, "Urbanski, Susan" <SJU1 at pge.com>,
>> "Cardone, Elizabeth" <EWCE at pge.com>, "Fitzgerald, Shawn" <SXFZ at pge.com>,
>> "XXXXXX, XXXXX" <XXXX at XXX.com>, "Strasburger, Martin" <M9SS at pge.com>,
>> Michael Coates <michael.coates at owasp.org>, Kate Hartmann <
>> kate.hartmann at owasp.org>, "scott.reed at us.pwc.com" <scott.reed at us.pwc.com>,
>> Tin Zaw <tin.zaw at owasp.org>, "Donovan, John" <JPDk at pge.com>
>> Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 16:47:27 +0000
>> Subject: San Francisco Bay Area OWASP Meeting
>>  Hi Everybody,
>>
>> This morning we had a conference call regarding starting up the San
>> Francisco Bay Area OWASP Chapter again. Cory Scott, Mandeep Khera, XXX
>> XXXXXXX, and Teresa Stevens (myself) called in.
>>
>> We discussed the following issues:
>>
>>
>>    - The next meeting, which is scheduled for 11:30 - 1:30, June 22, at
>>    245 Market, room 1417 (PG&E's offices). This will be a lunch meeting. Please
>>    email me if you plan to attend so I can put you on the list.
>>
>>
>>
>>    - We discussed whether it would be a good idea to have a board of
>>    directors for the Bay Area Chapter. The consensus seemed to be that we
>>    should have a board of directors.
>>
>>
>>
>>    - We discussed potential future venues for meetings. Please contact me
>>    if you are interested in volunteering your organization for a future venue
>>    for meetings.
>>
>>
>>
>>    - We discussed potential speakers for future meetings. Please contact
>>    me if you have ideas for speakers for future meetings.
>>
>>
>>
>>    - We discussed the need for sponsors. Please contact me if you work
>>    with an organization that is interested in sponsoring the Bay Area Chapter
>>    of OWASP.
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Teresa Stevens, MSIA, CISSP
>> Information Security Specialist
>> InfoSec, ISTS
>> Pacific Gas and Electric Company
>> 77 Beale Street, Room 2605A
>> Mail Code B26S
>> San Francisco, CA 94105
>> 415-973-1961
>>
>>
>>
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