[Global_chapter_committee] [Global_conference_committee] [Global_membership_committee] membership during registration

Kate Hartmann kate.hartmann at owasp.org
Wed May 18 14:58:20 EDT 2011


Thanks for all the responses...I think I know my answer now. :)  I will make sure we provide the opportunity for our conference plus membership registrants have the opportunity to choose their local chapter.

Please understand this will only be effective moving forward.

Jason Li <jason.li at owasp.org> wrote:

>Lucas makes a good point about projects.
>
>When the membership split was first proposed 3 years ago, the idea was that
>members could designate a portion of their dues to a chapter or project of
>their choice.
>
>Since chapter meetings and conferences are generally great recruiting
>grounds, the split has generally benefited chapters - though there have been
>a few projects that have gotten some token funds this way (ESAPI, Podcast, a
>few others IIRC).
>
>Of course it makes the maintenance overhead of the form much more complex as
>projects are constantly being added and the GPC is still working on a
>centralized inventory mechanism (hopefully online by Fall 2011)... Therefore
>I don't want to pollute the discussion too much - but I'd like to just throw
>it out there for awareness that allocations of dues towards projects should
>get more visibility eventually too.
>
>-Jason
>
>On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 2:08 PM, Lucas Ferreira <lucas.ferreira at owasp.org>wrote:
>
>> I think that the member should be able to choose a chapter or a
>> project to which the share will go to.
>>
>> Improving projects is at least as important as improving chapters.
>>
>> Lucas
>>
>> On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 14:47, Mark Bristow <mark.bristow at owasp.org>
>> wrote:
>> > Kate,
>> >
>> > I think I'm seeing a trend here that may answer your question :)
>> >
>> > On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 1:42 PM, Tin Zaw <tin.zaw at owasp.org> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> My personal opinion is to let the new/renewing member choose their
>> >> home chapter and have 40% of the membership dues go to that chapter.
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 10:20 AM, Tom Brennan <tomb at owasp.org> wrote:
>> >> > Home chapter is home chapter separate from conference. We actually had
>> a
>> >> > complaint last week from a member that became one at appsec dc and was
>> >> > not
>> >> > associated to the local chapter when we conducted a membership raffle.
>> >> >  So
>> >> > in order to measure chapters properly we need to track individuals to
>> >> > home
>> >> > chapters.  They should be able to transfer there association if they
>> >> > like as
>> >> > well (like they move change jobs etc...).  The membership hotline =
>> the
>> >> > contact us form on the Owasp website top right
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > On May 18, 2011, at 12:46 PM, "Stevens, Teresa" <ExSi at pge.com> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > I agree with following the standard membership policy. Thanks,
>> --Teresa
>> >> >
>> >> > ________________________________
>> >> > From: global_chapter_committee-bounces at lists.owasp.org
>> >> > [mailto:global_chapter_committee-bounces at lists.owasp.org] On Behalf
>> Of
>> >> > dan
>> >> > cornell
>> >> > Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 9:45 AM
>> >> > To: Mark Bristow
>> >> > Cc: global_chapter_committee at lists.owasp.org; dan cornell;
>> >> > Global_membership_committee at lists.owasp.org;
>> kelly.santalucia at owasp.org;
>> >> > Kate Hartmann; global_conference_committee; Alison McNamee
>> >> > Subject: Re: [Global_chapter_committee] [Global_membership_committee]
>> >> > [Global_conference_committee] membership during registration
>> >> >
>> >> > I would tend to agree that we follow the standard membership policy of
>> >> > giving 40% to the originating chapter.  It is an incentive for the
>> >> > chapter
>> >> > folks to promote attendance at events.
>> >> > Thanks,
>> >> > Dan
>> >> >
>> >> > On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 10:11 AM, Mark Bristow <
>> mark.bristow at owasp.org>
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> (looping in chapters and membership)
>> >> >> Kate,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> The Conferences Committee has no offical policy on this.  I was told
>> >> >> that
>> >> >> this went to the conference previously due to an undue burden on
>> >> >> accounting
>> >> >> resources.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I'm of the opinion that it should follow the standard membership
>> >> >> committee
>> >> >> policy (as it's sort of separate activity from the conference). In
>> >> >> general
>> >> >> tho I don't really think this is our AoR but we can discuss if there
>> >> >> has
>> >> >> been a change in the operational requiremetns.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> -Mark
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 11:03 AM, Josh Sokol <josh.sokol at owasp.org>
>> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> IMHO, this is a decision that should be left up to the conference
>> >> >>> planners.  If they are willing to take the time to separate the
>> >> >>> attendees
>> >> >>> into their respective chapters, then I think that due credit should
>> be
>> >> >>> given
>> >> >>> to ensure that they get the 60/40 membership split.  If they are
>> >> >>> unwilling
>> >> >>> to take the time to do that, then it should just get rolled into the
>> >> >>> conference budget.  For what it's worth, "take the time" is
>> basically
>> >> >>> just a
>> >> >>> matter of setting up a custom field in RegOnline before you start
>> >> >>> accepting
>> >> >>> registrations.  That field exists for LASCON 2011 and our intent is
>> to
>> >> >>> pass
>> >> >>> the membership money back along to the chapter the member came from.
>> >> >>> This
>> >> >>> incentive helps encourage the other OWASP chapters in Texas to
>> >> >>> participate
>> >> >>> in LASCON.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> ~josh
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 9:55 AM, Kate Hartmann
>> >> >>> <kate.hartmann at owasp.org>
>> >> >>> wrote:
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> Group, this has come up in the past for discussion, but I’m not
>> aware
>> >> >>>> that there was ever a final answer (other matters took priority)…
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> When an attendee becomes a member during the registration process
>> for
>> >> >>>> an
>> >> >>>> event, does their 40% split apply to the event budget as income or
>> to
>> >> >>>> the
>> >> >>>> local chapter a membership split.  Historically, this amount has
>> >> >>>> applied to
>> >> >>>> the conference budget, but I want to make sure we are continuing to
>> >> >>>> do what
>> >> >>>> we are supposed to be doing from an operational perspective.
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> If the “policy” is to apply the split back to the local chapter,
>> are
>> >> >>>> we
>> >> >>>> giving attendees the opportunity to choose their own local chapter
>> >> >>>> instead
>> >> >>>> of the host chapter?
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> I need to make sure we get this set up correctly in all of our
>> >> >>>> events.
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> Kate Hartmann
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> Operations Director
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> 301-275-9403
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> www.owasp.org
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> Skype:  Kate.hartmann1
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>
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>> >> >> Mark Bristow
>> >> >> (703) 596-5175
>> >> >> mark.bristow at owasp.org
>> >> >>
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>> >> Tin Zaw, CISSP, CSSLP
>> >> Chapter Leader and President, OWASP Los Angeles Chapter
>> >> Chair, OWASP Global Chapter Committee
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>> > mark.bristow at owasp.org
>> >
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