[Global_chapter_committee] Local Chapters - Global Chapter Committee - Board relationship in the Chapter Handbook and On The Move

Andrew van der Stock vanderaj at owasp.org
Fri Jun 17 22:12:53 EDT 2011

OTM money has been used a fair bit by those who know that it is available. I know the MSP chapter used it for like their first bunch of speakers, for example. And that's okay as it was used properly according to the rules. But it doesn't mean that should be the norm. Local chapter leaders should try to find folks who are already in town or going to be in town at the time, and OTM money be used to fly in as a last resort.

It's just that every chapter leader I've ever spoken to about the program does not know it exists, like when I spoke to the Portland OR chapter leader at OSCON in 2010. That's our fault for not communicating the program's existence well enough. However, I personally believe that if OTM was better known, we'd easily break $100k a year in shuffling speakers around. 

If anything, I think if we are going to keep or make OTM more affordable to the foundation is to put a cap on per speaker uses (like say four trips per year) as well as review the current chapter cap. Otherwise, OTM will be a bottomless money pit. 

I'd like to also encourage remote speaking, where folks use video conferencing. Personally, I don't like travelling as much as I used to, so if a chapter can get good speakers via video conference, that should be a choice we promote.

For less than $500 USD, we can buy a decent camera, stand and mic:

Flip Ultra HD: $129

Mini Tripod: $8.95

Wireless lapel microphone: $144

Yes, I agree there's an asset management issue we need to work on, but for less than the price of one OTM speaker per chapter, we might get 12-20 talks videoed and available to everyone on the planet. I think that's a good investment, especially for places where English is not the first language, and where it might be hard to get to chapter meetings.

Not every chapter will require all of this, as a lapel microphone and a web cam built into most computers would do the trick at a pinch. 


On 18/06/2011, at 11:21 AM, Christian Heinrich wrote:

> Andrew,
> On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 9:47 AM, Andrew van der Stock
> <vanderaj at owasp.org> wrote:
>> Next, on the move.
>> I'm personally against this program. Some speakers seem to use it far, far
>> more than others, which benefits them more than it benefits OWASP. Most
>> chapters do not know that OTM exists when I've mentioned it to them, but I
>> think we if mentioned it more, it'd just be a huge drain on our funding. As
>> a conslutant, I fly for my work, and I make it clear when I'm available for
>> local chapter talks.
>> I'd like to enable speakers to register with us, so chapter leaders can find
>> local-ish speakers more easily, and find out when all registered speaker's
>> trips coincide with a meeting date at a particular location.
>> I'd prefer to provide money to chapters to buy cheap digital video cameras,
>> a stand, and lapel mikes so they can video meetings with high quality audio
>> and upload talks to wherever we've agreed is the place we upload videos to.
>> That way, more folks can see talks, and potentially, if chapters are having
>> difficulty in findings speakers, they can stream a talk from another
> I am under the assumption that OotM has not been requested or used
> since OWASP USA 2008 until the recent requests related to AusCERT and
> South America.
> The main reason I avoid OotM is due to dealing with the significant
> bureaucracy vs my professional cost in time i.e. this vastly exceeds
> $500USD.
> I would also like to highlight that when I was employed at Foxtel
> (i.e. during OWASP USA 2008, etc) I was *not* able to claim my travel
> expenses as tax deductions as it was unrelated to my employment.
> I support the purchase of video cameras, etc but how would these
> assets be tracked, returned and allocated i.e. per chapter, country,
> continent?
> -- 
> Regards,
> Christian Heinrich
> http://www.owasp.org/index.php/user:cmlh

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