[Global_chapter_committee] Starting a local chapter in Salt Lake City, Utah

Fri Mar 13 08:05:55 EDT 2009

Sure, given them some probation period (& a couple warnings) but after  
that , that chaper must be listed on the wiki chapers list as inactive  
with a note on its wiki page asking for new leaders

Dinis Cruz

On 12 Mar 2009, at 16:27, "Kate Hartmann" <kate.hartmann at owasp.org>  
wrote:

> I have it, but am not sure where to put it?  I suppose sometimes I  
> worry about offending.  What I would like to do is prior to posting  
> the list, perhaps contact the chapter leaders for these chapters and  
> give them a chance to respond.  I believe one of the items in Ofer’s 
>  handbook includes a 3 month “probationary period” to give the  
> leaders a chance to get moving before we mark them as inactive.
>
>
>
> Kate Hartmann
>
> OWASP Operations Director
>
> 9175 Guilford Road
>
> Suite 300
>
> Columbia, MD  21046
>
>
>
> 301-275-9403
>
> kate.hartmann at owasp.org
>
> Skype:  kate.hartmann1
>
>
>
> From: Dinis Cruz [mailto:dinis.cruz at owasp.org]
> Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 11:54 AM
> To: Kate Hartmann
> Cc: Ofer Shezaf; global_chapter_committee at lists.owasp.org
> Subject: Re: [Global_chapter_committee] Starting a local chapter in  
> Salt Lake City, Utah
>
>
>
> A top priority should be the creation and publish of a list of  
> innactive chapters
>
> Dinis Cruz
>
>
> On 12 Mar 2009, at 14:49, "Kate Hartmann" <kate.hartmann at owasp.org>  
> wrote:
>
> The more we grow and expand, the more frequently we will see  
> problems like this arise.  In this case, I have spoken to Alex from  
> Salt Lake and discovered that his motives were not to necessarily  
> start a new chapter, but to find out more information on what OWASP  
> actually does.  He is very willing to become a member and  
> participant in the local chapter.  I have contacted the current  
> chapter leader for Salt Lake and have also encouraged Alex to  
> contact David Campbell from Denver.  Alex mentioned that he was  
> actually not far from Denver.
>
>
>
> The problems that I’ve seen in the past week with local chapters con 
> cerns me greatly.  Chapters and members are the backbone of our orga 
> nization.  In my opinion, they are our “customers” and it is a  
> huge part of my responsibility to make sure they are happy and succe 
> ssful.  From a strictly business perspective, one angry customer wil 
> l impact public opinion more than 10 satisfied customers.
>
>
>
> In addition to the swift creation and approval of the chapter  
> handbook, I really need support from the experienced chapter leaders  
> on conflict resolution.  There is the issue in Chennai, the problem  
> in Argentina, and the ongoing challenge of the inactive chapters.
>
>
>
> Ofer, keep up the great work on the documentation.  Once there is a  
> policy and procedure guideline that has been approved, it will be  
> easier to direct chapters.  In the meantime, I will continue to need  
> your support to resolve the current issues.  Realizing that the  
> actions I take establish a precedent, I want to be sure that I am  
> acting in the best interest of the future of OWASP.
>
>
>
> Kate Hartmann
>
> OWASP Operations Director
>
> 9175 Guilford Road
>
> Suite 300
>
> Columbia, MD  21046
>
>
>
> 301-275-9403
>
> kate.hartmann at owasp.org
>
> Skype:  kate.hartmann1
>
>
>
> From: Ofer Shezaf [mailto:ofer at shezaf.com]
> Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 3:00 AM
> To: 'Kate Hartmann'; 'Ofer Shezaf'
> Cc: global_chapter_committee at lists.owasp.org
> Subject: RE: [Global_chapter_committee] Starting a local chapter in  
> Salt Lake City, Utah
>
>
>
> The chapter I wrote about a chapter life cycle at https://www.owasp.org/index.php/Chapter_Handbook:_Chapter%27s_life_cycle 
>  does include a new more formal procedure.
>
>
>
> I think that it has two major changes:
>
> ·        Need to provide names of recommenders, so it is not a perso 
> n doing it alone
>
> ·        Sending the request for review on the leaders mailing list. 
>  My reasons was for that were to detect early any conflict and to ge 
> t any concerns people may have with the new guy.
>
> ·        I did not address directly change of leader for an inactive 
>  chapter. I would add that shortly based on recent experience.
>
>
>
> Saying that, this chapter is only a draft waiting for your comments  
> and presenting to the board. I will set a deadline for comments to  
> make you all actually read it J. Kate, your input is especially  
> important since you handle many such processes on a regular basis.
>
>
>
> ~ Ofer
>
>
>
> Ofer Shezaf [shezaf at xiom.com, +972-54-4431119, www.xiom.com]
>
>
>
> From: Kate Hartmann [mailto:kate.hartmann at owasp.org]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 4:56 PM
> To: 'Ofer Shezaf'
> Cc: global_chapter_committee at lists.owasp.org
> Subject: RE: [Global_chapter_committee] Starting a local chapter in  
> Salt Lake City, Utah
>
>
>
> This type of situation is not a new one.  Several times each week I  
> get an email from someone inquiring about a particular chapter.   
> Sometimes the chapter is inactive, sometimes, the person will be  
> looking to start a new chapter in a geographic area that has no  
> current chapter.  I have set up 3 new chapters in the past week.
>
>
>
> I want to be sure I understand what you are proposing the process to  
> be…..  The recommendations are for new chapter leaders?  Is this onl 
> y to take over an existing chapter or is it for new chapters as well 
> .  Should I be forwarding new chapter requests to the Committee?  In 
>  the past, I have received written (electronic) verification from th 
> e person that they have read and will adhere to the Chapter rules po 
> sted on the wiki.
>
>
>
> If the “starting a chapter” process is going to change, please  
> make sure I have all the information I need to initiate the chapter.
>
>
>
> Kate Hartmann
>
> OWASP Operations Director
>
> 9175 Guilford Road
>
> Suite 300
>
> Columbia, MD  21046
>
>
>
> 301-275-9403
>
> kate.hartmann at owasp.org
>
> Skype:  kate.hartmann1
>
>
>
> From: Ofer Shezaf [mailto:ofer at shezaf.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 10:43 AM
> To: 'Kate Hartmann'
> Cc: global_chapter_committee at lists.owasp.org
> Subject: RE: [Global_chapter_committee] Starting a local chapter in  
> Salt Lake City, Utah
>
>
>
> Kate, we also need recommendations and supporters list from Alex.
>
>
>
> ~ Ofer
>
>
>
> Ofer Shezaf [shezaf at xiom.com, +972-54-4431119, www.xiom.com]
>
>
>
> From: global_chapter_committee-bounces at lists.owasp.org [mailto:global_chapter_committee-bounces at lists.owasp.org 
> ] On Behalf Of Kate Hartmann
> Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 4:08 PM
> To: 'Alex C, IT Security Professional'
> Cc: global_chapter_committee at lists.owasp.org
> Subject: Re: [Global_chapter_committee] Starting a local chapter in  
> Salt Lake City, Utah
>
>
>
> Alex, thank you for your interest and enthusiasm!
>
>
>
> I see there is already a chapter established in Salt Lake.  https://www.owasp.org/index.php/Salt_Lake 
>  Have you contacted the chapter leader?  I don’t see where the site  
> has been updated to reflect meetings, however.
>
>
>
> I will ping Dmitry and see how things are going.  It may be that he  
> will need some help getting the chapter moving.
>
>
>
> Kate Hartmann
>
> OWASP Operations Director
>
> 9175 Guilford Road
>
> Suite 300
>
> Columbia, MD  21046
>
>
>
> 301-275-9403
>
> kate.hartmann at owasp.org
>
> Skype:  kate.hartmann1
>
>
>
> From: Alex C, IT Security Professional [mailto:infosecutah at gmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 9:37 PM
> To: kate.hartmann at owasp.org
> Subject: Starting a local chapter in Salt Lake City, Utah
>
>
>
> Kate,
>
>
>
> I would like to get information on starting a local chapter in Salt  
> Lake City, Utah.
>
>
>
> I have:
>
> Read and agree to the Chapter Rules
>
> Will commit to organizing at least quarterly meetings
>
> Will find a stable location for meetings
>
> Will find great speakers
>
> Will publicize the chapter and recruit new members
>
> Will keep the chapter non-commercial
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Alex Casares
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>
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> Regards,
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> Alex Casares
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