[Owasp-Mumbai] Is my WiFi is adequately secure to keep me out of jail

Thu Jan 15 22:18:25 EST 2009

hey you are forgetting the most basic forms of communication - word of
mouth.
- sign language
- 'dumb charade' <LOL>

imagine a serious discussion on a new law banning this stuff. dumb !

On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 12:06 AM, saurabh ... <saurabh.jaolikar at gmail.com>wrote:

> Also, not to forget WLL phones ....
>
> --
>
> 2009/1/15 r4y <secureas at gmail.com>
>
> My problem is not with securing wi-fi.
>>
>> My problem is that they are not doing enough!
>>
>> They need to secure fax machines, post and telegraph system, and now with
>> the advent of 3G even mobiles and handhelds!
>> I mean.. they are all legitimate transmission mediums to send terror
>> emails right?
>>
>> 2009/1/12 Dipak Parmar <dipak at lawyer.com>
>>
>>  Dear All
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Chapter XI (Sections 149-153) of the Code Criminal Procedure,1973 deals
>>> with preventive actions taken by the Police.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Section 149 deals with rights of police officers to step-in for
>>> prevention of the cognizable offence (in simple term… serious crime) and can
>>> arrest the accused without warrant under section 151.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Unsecured wi-fi enable anti social elements to send terror emails without
>>> any leads to their identity…. A serious crime…
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> So far as, I understand rational behind this drive is to minimize
>>> vulnerabilities and to warn users to secured their wi-fi. Nothing beyond
>>> that…
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> However, if you play a trick with them then they have a right under
>>> section 151 of the Code Criminal Procedure, 1973   to put you behind the
>>> bar for min of 24 hours and longer period with permission of the Magistrate.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Although, your intentions are noble but it will take hell of lot time for
>>> them to digest the same and till then you will face the music.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> With regards
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Dipak  G.  Parmar
>>>
>>> Trade Mark Attorney and Techno-Legal Consultant
>>>
>>> 13/A, Bhaijivanji Lane,
>>>
>>> Thakurdwar Road,
>>>
>>> Mumbai – 400 002
>>>
>>> INDIA
>>>
>>> +91-22-22093564
>>>
>>> +91-9820196971
>>>
>>> email: dipak at lawyer.com
>>>
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>>>
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>>>
>>>
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>>> 1. Re: Is my WiFi is adequately secure to keep me out of jail (r4y)
>>> 2. Re: Is my WiFi is adequately secure to keep me out of jail
>>> (Yash Kadakia)
>>>
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>>>
>>> Message: 1
>>> Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 10:12:25 +0530
>>> From: r4y
>>> Subject: Re: [Owasp-Mumbai] Is my WiFi is adequately secure to keep me
>>> out of jail
>>> To: "Dinesh O'Bareja"
>>> Cc: "owasp-mumbai at lists.owasp.org"
>>> Message-ID:
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>>>
>>> what would be really cool is if we can get some C developers to work for
>>> us
>>> to modify
>>> http://rfakeap.tuxfamily.org/ and port it to symbian..
>>>
>>> then distribute it to those who want to oppose the FUD and next time
>>> police
>>> come sniffing around they are going to find 1000s of fakeaps all FK!!
>>> That
>>> will be a lot of fun and also in a way a kind of formal protest /
>>> activism
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2009/1/10 Dinesh O'Bareja
>>>
>>>  > Yesterday we were talking about experts and I just read in the
>>> newspaper
>>> > that I can be arrested under the CrPC for not having secured my WiFi
>>> > connection. If I did not close the door of my house is there some
>>> provision
>>> > for the cops to arrest me ?
>>> > But I am digressing.
>>> >
>>> > What I actually wanted to know was is there a different provision in
>>> the
>>> > CrPC for jail terms for WEP, WPA, WPA2 and "FK" (FK = Fully Khulla) ?
>>> As a
>>> > common man this is my understanding
>>> > - if you are FK you are fk'ed - in for life !
>>> > - if you are WEP you are going to be whepped and then thrown into a
>>> > well.... sorry into a wepp-hole where you will be forced to wepp
>>> because you
>>> > will get a 3 hour lecture on WiFi security every 3.01 hours. And every
>>> time
>>> > you do not wepp you will be forced into a personal session with the
>>> Wireless
>>> > Worlds Expertest Professional (WWEP)
>>> > - if you are a WAP guy you will be called in and have to explain WiFi
>>> > security and how to do it to the cops and the session must be no less
>>> than 3
>>> > hours. You will also have to do community service by spreading the
>>> message
>>> > of WiFi security as a national priority among the downtrodden and
>>> street
>>> > children.
>>> > - if you are WPA2 you will get a FUD-Chakra this is the award given to
>>> > civilians who have a very sticky 'expert' tag to their names, preceded
>>> by
>>> > the latest scare or development in the technology world. The award will
>>> > attract gullible officials and media to your doorstep providing you
>>> with
>>> > opportunities to blab gas. Of course there will be people like me who
>>> will
>>> > hate you for the thick skin and shallow character you will have (that
>>> is a
>>> > pre-qualification for the award)
>>> >
>>> > BTW Dipak can you please give us some advice here - what sections of
>>> the
>>> > CrPC apply here ? Under what section of the CrPC can the cops go about
>>> > searching your house / society / locality for WiFi connections ....
>>> isn't
>>> > this tantamount to a search without any authorization / warrant ? If
>>> they
>>> > find three or four unsecured connections and each has a default ID
>>> "dlink"
>>> > will they knock (or break down) every door in the neighborhood ?
>>> >
>>> > Lastly....... right now, I have a wireless router that is switched on,
>>> not
>>> > secured, an SSID that shows my name and address AND it is not connected
>>> to
>>> > the internet ! And I am waiting for the law to catch up with me for
>>> this
>>> > illegal act because the crime is to have an open WiFi connection and i
>>> am
>>> > sure that for the clueless cops it will not matter if the open
>>> connection is
>>> > connected or not !!
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Have a nice day !
>>> > Dinesh
>>> >
>>> > PS: Hackers and terrorists are omnipresent so SSID and certain language
>>> > changes to make you undiscoverable in these dangerous times are as
>>> follows /
>>> > the new glossary :
>>> > wepp = weep, cry, shed tears, bawl
>>> > fk'ed = no need to explain because you have to be there to know
>>> > whepped = whipped, flogged, bashed, maro'ed
>>> > WiFi = hahah u don't know ! Don't ask too, because this is supposed to
>>> be
>>> > strongly protected
>>> > WEP = kaccha taala
>>> >
>>> >
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>>> Message: 2
>>> Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 16:02:27 +0530
>>> From: Yash Kadakia
>>> Subject: Re: [Owasp-Mumbai] Is my WiFi is adequately secure to keep me
>>> out of jail
>>> To: r4y
>>> Cc: "owasp-mumbai at lists.owasp.org"
>>> Message-ID:
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>>
>>> R4y,
>>>
>>> Even better load up a few fake ap's with driver exploits for ipw2200
>>> and other vulnerable drivers.
>>>
>>> Then wait for the local pandu to come sniffing ;)
>>>
>>> --
>>> Yash Kadakia
>>>
>>> Sent from my handheld
>>>
>>> On Jan 11, 2009, at 10:12 AM, r4y wrote:
>>>
>>> > what would be really cool is if we can get some C developers to
>>> > work for us to modify
>>> > http://rfakeap.tuxfamily.org/ and port it to symbian..
>>> >
>>> > then distribute it to those who want to oppose the FUD and next
>>> > time police come sniffing around they are going to find 1000s of
>>> > fakeaps all FK!! That will be a lot of fun and also in a way a
>>> > kind of formal protest / activism
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > 2009/1/10 Dinesh O'Bareja
>>>  > Yesterday we were talking about experts and I just read in the
>>> > newspaper that I can be arrested under the CrPC for not having
>>> > secured my WiFi connection. If I did not close the door of my
>>> > house is there some provision for the cops to arrest me ?
>>> >
>>> > But I am digressing.
>>> >
>>> > What I actually wanted to know was is there a different provision
>>> > in the CrPC for jail terms for WEP, WPA, WPA2 and "FK" (FK =
>>> > Fully Khulla) ? As a common man this is my understanding
>>> > - if you are FK you are fk'ed - in for life !
>>> > - if you are WEP you are going to be whepped and then thrown
>>> > into a well.... sorry into a wepp-hole where you will be forced
>>> > to wepp because you will get a 3 hour lecture on WiFi security
>>> > every 3.01 hours. And every time you do not wepp you will be
>>> > forced into a personal session with the Wireless Worlds
>>> > Expertest Professional (WWEP)
>>> > - if you are a WAP guy you will be called in and have to explain
>>> > WiFi security and how to do it to the cops and the session must
>>> > be no less than 3 hours. You will also have to do community
>>> > service by spreading the message of WiFi security as a national
>>> > priority among the downtrodden and street children.
>>> > - if you are WPA2 you will get a FUD-Chakra this is the award
>>> > given to civilians who have a very sticky 'expert' tag to their
>>> > names, preceded by the latest scare or development in the
>>> > technology world. The award will attract gullible officials and
>>> > media to your doorstep providing you with opportunities to blab
>>> > gas. Of course there will be people like me who will hate you
>>> > for the thick skin and shallow character you will have (that is
>>> > a pre-qualification for the award)
>>> >
>>> > BTW Dipak can you please give us some advice here - what sections
>>> > of the CrPC apply here ? Under what section of the CrPC can the
>>> > cops go about searching your house / society / locality for WiFi
>>> > connections .... isn't this tantamount to a search without any
>>> > authorization / warrant ? If they find three or four unsecured
>>> > connections and each has a default ID "dlink" will they knock (or
>>> > break down) every door in the neighborhood ?
>>> >
>>> > Lastly....... right now, I have a wireless router that is
>>> > switched on, not secured, an SSID that shows my name and address
>>> > AND it is not connected to the internet ! And I am waiting for
>>> > the law to catch up with me for this illegal act because the
>>> > crime is to have an open WiFi connection and i am sure that for
>>> > the clueless cops it will not matter if the open connection is
>>> > connected or not !!
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Have a nice day !
>>> > Dinesh
>>> >
>>> > PS: Hackers and terrorists are omnipresent so SSID and certain
>>> > language changes to make you undiscoverable in these dangerous
>>> > times are as follows / the new glossary :
>>> > wepp = weep, cry, shed tears, bawl
>>> > fk'ed = no need to explain because you have to be there to know
>>> > whepped = whipped, flogged, bashed, maro'ed
>>> > WiFi = hahah u don't know ! Don't ask too, because this is
>>> > supposed to be strongly protected
>>> > WEP = kaccha taala
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > _______________________________________________
>>> > OWASP-Mumbai mailing list
>>> > OWASP-Mumbai at lists.owasp.org
>>> > https://lists.owasp.org/mailman/listinfo/owasp-mumbai
>>> >
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