[Owasp-leaders] Notice of Board Action

[Tin Zaw]

Dear all:

Can we all let this issue rest? If you want to continue chit-chatting
just for the fun of it, please do so in private (not on the leader
list).

If you still strongly feel about it, you have two ways to vote -- with
your ballot at the next board election and with your wallet when the
time comes to renew your membership.

At this time, let's focus back on the core mission of OWASP -- to
spread web app security.

Thanks!

On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 3:10 PM, Dennis Groves, MSc
<dennis.groves at owasp.org> wrote:
> On 8 Feb 2012, at 21:52, Rex Booth wrote:
>
> I don't need to be 'allowed' to sue anybody - I can do so at any time as I
> see fit. Whether I win my case or not is another story. But even if I lose,
> my opponent has likely incurred all sorts of legal costs and headaches
> during my effort.
> Eoin is correct - as in security, you want to minimize the target on your
> back.
>
> 19) Stratagem for confused situations
>
> Steal The Firewood From Under the Pot
>
> When faced with an enemy too powerful to engage directly you must first
> weaken him by undermining his foundation and attacking his source of power.
>
> Legendary Era Japan
>
> Japan’s ancient hero Yamato Takeru was one of the eighty children of emperor
> Keiko. One day he was sent to kill a notorious outlaw who was such an expert
> swordsman that all who had gotten in his way were killed. Yamato Takeru did
> not intend to duel with the bandit and pretended to be ignorant of the man’s
> reputation in order to befriend him. They became such good friends that they
> even went swimming together on a regular basis. When Yamato Takeru was
> assured the bandit harbored no suspicions he was ready to act. One day when
> they went swimming he brought with him a wooden sword that he hid in his
> travel kit. They were in the habit of racing each other around a small
> island but this time while they were racing Takeru let the bandit take the
> lead and, once he was out of sight behind the island, Takeru swam back to
> shore and quickly replaced the bandit’s sword with the wooden one. After
> they had gotten dressed Takeru turned to the bandit and revealed his true
> purpose. The bandit immediately went for his sword, but the wooden sword had
> become wedged in the scabbard. While he was struggling to draw the wooden
> sword, Takeru took the bandit’s head off in a single stroke.
>
> Yes, the ousted individual may sue us right now, but there is less of a case
> for defamation of character accusations if we don't make an effort to
> publicize as much as possible.
>
> Fear is the path to the Dark Side. Fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate,
> hate leads to suffering. -- YODA, Star Wars Episode I: The Phantom Menace
>
> There is a balance to be struck between transparency and reasonableness. The
> later does not require us to air all of our dirty laundry in the most public
> of ways.
>
> I disagree the sentiment that it is 'airing dirty laundry' to communicate
> transparently with the community - again the point is this:
>
> We really can't prevent anybody from acting on behalf of OWASP or being
> involved in its activities if that person is not exposed! How else am I to
> know that this person is no longer a part of OWASP? What if I invite them to
> speak at my chapter and represent OWASP to the supporters? And they use this
> to represent themselves as OWASP to the business community at large?
>
> If my employer told me that I was not to let an unspecified individual into
> the office building for whatever reason - how can I possibly comply with the
> request unless I know whom it is that is forbidden?
>
> I am not hearing good reasons for secrecy, I do hear a lot of fear.
>
> Do you think that is why the KKK wear their hoods?
> Because they are afraid of being outed for their actions?
>
> OWASP isn't the KKK, off with the hoods!
>
> Dennis
>
> Always enjoy your interactions,
>
> And I yours!
>
> Cheers,
>
> Dennis
>
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>
> Dennis Groves, MSc
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>
> "What is the use of living, if it be not to strive for noble causes and make
> this muddled world a better place for those who will live in it after we
> have gone." -- Winston Churchill, October 10th, 1908
>
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-- 
Tin Zaw, CISSP, CSSLP
Chapter Leader and President, OWASP Los Angeles Chapter
Member, OWASP Global Chapter Committee
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