[Owasp-leaders] Thomas Ryan - OWASP - OccupyWallStreet - Gawker

[Rex Booth]

Ah.

Well, my concerns are stated below about the "board" title.  The article 
isn't exactly Pulitzer material, and I don't think it infers any 
involvement on behalf of OWASP.

Our members (and sometimes leaders) do stupid crap all the time - same 
as any other organization.  I don't see the need to put out a press 
release each time that happens unless they're explicitly doing so under 
in the name of OWASP.  Just my opinion, though - reasonable minds can 
differ.

Rex

On 10/16/2011 8:08 PM, Chris Schmidt wrote:
> "Ryan said he knows Loyd through their mutual involvement in the Open 
> Web Application Security Project, a non-profit computer security group 
> of which Ryan is a board member."
>
> On 10/16/2011 6:07 PM, Rex Booth wrote:
> > Yeah, I get that - thus my reply.
> >
> > But are we reading the same article? I don't see anything about OWASP 
> in it.
> >
> > On 10/16/2011 7:58 PM, Chris Schmidt wrote:
> >>
>> The intent is not to judge his opinions on OWS - to each their own, 
>> and what he does professionally or personally is none of my business. 
>> The point is that he is identified as a board member of OWASP which 
>> implies alignment of the organization and in fact the way it reads, 
>> sounds as if the actions taken were done so as an OWASP initiative.
>>
>> On 10/16/2011 5:53 PM, Rex Booth wrote:
>> > I know Tom Ryan, but I'm not going to weigh in on his activities 
>> regarding occupy wall street, though I will say he's no stranger to 
>> controversy.
>>
>> > However, I do agree that there are numerous people who say they're 
>> on the board of OWASP when the truth is that they're on the board of 
>> a local chapter. I think the use of a board structure at the local 
>> chapter level is typically excessive and, at best, leads to confusion 
>> about the scope of individual roles within OWASP or, at worst, 
>> provides cover for disingenuous statements and innuendo.
>>
>> > In this case, to my knowledge, Tom is on the board of the NYC chapter.
>>
>> > Rex
>>
>> > On 10/16/2011 7:42 PM, Chris Schmidt wrote:
>> > I don't know who the hell Thomas Ryan is, but I am pretty sure he 
>> is not
>> > a board member for OWASP as he claims in this article on Gawker. I 
>> think
>> > we need to issue a statement from the organization expressing this.
>>
>> > 
>> http://gawker.com/5850054/meet-the-guy-who-snitched-on-occupy-wall-street-to-the-fbi-and-nypd 
>>
>>
>>
>> > Jeff Walton (ESAPI-C++) brought this to my attention. Regardless of 
>> how
>> > *anyone* in this organization feels about OccupyWallStreet - aligning
>> > the organization with either side is a really bad idea for numerous
>> > obvious reasons.
>>
>> > This article has gotten a *ton* of publicity - can we draft a response
>> > to Gawker ASAP?
>>
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