[Owasp-leaders] (Not at OWASP Conference / January 2011) Re: Global Summit and AppSec USA
Paulo Coimbra
paulo.coimbra at owasp.org
Thu Jul 29 13:29:50 EDT 2010
All,
I also support the idea of having a summit event outside of OWASP
conferences and believe January 2011 would be the ideal date to set it up.
However, if we don’t re-decide otherwise, the next summit is planned to be
held at AppSecDC 2010 on November 8th through 11th 2010.
Also, for your information, I am only one within a group of people that have
begun thinking about the event and in fact I am very far from leading it.
The provisional Summit 2010 Team is being carbon copied.
Thanks,
Paulo Coimbra,
<https://www.owasp.org/index.php/Main_Page> OWASP Project Manager
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[mailto:owasp-leaders-bounces at lists.owasp.org] On Behalf Of Brad Causey
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Subject: Re: [Owasp-leaders] (Not at OWASP Conference / January 2011) Re:
Global Summit and AppSec USA
Martin, I totally agree. Count me in.
-Brad Causey
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On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 10:37 AM, Martin Knobloch
<martin.knobloch at owasp.org> wrote:
I absolutely support the idea of having a summit event, outside of OWASP
conferences!
That was the power and success of the Portugal Summit!
If I am not mistaken, this has not been continued due to the lack of
financial resources of OWASP caused by the international financial crisis,
what caused the shrinking OWASP budgets.
In his earlier email, Dinis asked who to help Paulo with organizing the
future summits.
Those questions will be part of the assignment:
- find out what the community feels like
(where, when, separate from or as part of OWASP conferences)
- getting budget form the board
- finding a suitable location
- make the summit happen!
Myself, I have volunteered helping Paulo, who is in, too? ;-)
..let's make the summit a annual, accessible, successful event!
On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 4:43 PM, dinis cruz <dinis.cruz at owasp.org> wrote:
I think that the Summit should actually be done OUTSIDE an OWASP conference.
The only benefit of doing it at an OWASP conference is that we might get a
couple more attendees, BUT in fact I think the lack of focus that an
conference brings is also a problem.
Also it is not fair to those conference organizers since they will not be
able to participate in the Summit.
So, if you like this idea, we need to find a time where there are NO OWASP
conferences, and I belive the next slot is January 2011 (which is not a bad
idea to have regular OWASP Summits in January).
I also think that we should always take advantage of local gatherings of
OWASP leaders at our conferences, and where possible we should be doing
mini-summits that focus on a particular Project, Commitee or industry sector
(for example I was promoting to Matteo the idea to do an 'Testing Guide
mini-summit' at the next US AppSec)
Dinis Cruz
On 29 July 2010 13:10, Venkatesh Jagannathan <venki at owasp.org> wrote:
Or how about at Chennai? :)
I have a feeling that Asia has felt the need of such leadership meetings to
happen (at least as frequently as Europe/the US). If not India, any other
location in the Asian continent is a good one :)
Thanks & Regards,
~Venk!
On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 12:25 AM, John Wilander <john.wilander at owasp.org>
wrote:
The summit should not be in the US two years in a row IMHO. OWASP is already
very US-centric (naturally since it was founded there). But if we want to be
a a global community we need to spread out the summits and make them more
accessible.
The 2010 summit was intended for AppSec in Stockholm but board members
didn't have time to organize it. Moving it to the US is not the right
solution according to me. Doing that will just copy the problem to 2001
"Well, we had a summit in November last year so we can't have it already in
Dublin. That's too close in time.". During summer 2011 we'll think "Hmm ...
it's time for another summit and hey, AppSec in the US seems like a perfect
fit!"
For me, the best choice for the next summit is AppSec in Dublin next year.
Reusing the previous arguments I'd say it's close to the US so it'll be
easier for Americans to show up ;).
I second Martin's comment on AppSec USA vs AppSec DC. I have more problems
to motivate attending a regional event overseas than the "big" AppSec USA.
So I think having the summit in DC will lower the number of European
attendees.
Those are my 50 cents.
Regards, John
2010/7/27 Eoin <eoin.keary at owasp.org>
count all the board members in (I assume)
On 27 July 2010 14:47, Paulo Coimbra <paulo.coimbra at owasp.org> wrote:
All,
I am here, following attentively the thread.
Thanks,
Paulo Coimbra,
OWASP Project Manager
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: owasp-leaders-bounces at lists.owasp.org [mailto:owasp-leaders-
> >bounces at lists.owasp.org] On Behalf Of Justin Clarke
> >Sent: terça-feira, 27 de Julho de 2010 14:38
> >To: owasp-leaders at lists.owasp.org
> >Subject: Re: [Owasp-leaders] Global Summit and AppSec USA
> >
> >$ ping paulo
> >ping: cannot resolve paulo: Unknown host
> >
> >On 27 Jul 2010, at 14:37, Martin Knobloch wrote:
> >
> >> Ping!
> >>
> >> On Tuesday, July 27, 2010, dinis cruz <dinis.cruz at owasp.org> wrote:
> >>> The big problem is lack of time to organize it properly.In fact (at
> >the current (slow) speed of preparation work) we are already very late
> >in the planning of the Summit for November (we could really do with
> >help here!)
> >>>
> >>> Note that one of the things we have NOT done is to figure out who
> >can make it to the proposed Summit date and location. This is critical
> >since the point of the Summit is to get as many OWASP Leaders and
> >Committee members in one place so that we can look at what has been
> >done, discuss the next steps and create a roadmap for 2010.
> >>>
> >>> Ping Paulo if you want to be involved in this event.
> >>>
> >>> Dinis Cruz
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 27 July 2010 13:58, Martin Knobloch <martin.knobloch at owasp.org>
> >wrote:
> >>> Understanding the first reason, I don't see the second.
> >>> People have to choose what conference, both conferences will be
> >impossible for the most.
> >>> Flying 8 or 10 hours make no difference and (at least for me / in
> >my opinion) it is easier to get time off for the AppSec-US with a more
> >international character then for conference what seams to have a more
> >local focus.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> The Ireland conference is indeed quite long to wait for. Further,
> >how many from the US do you expect to be there...?
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 10:52 PM, Dave Wichers
> ><dave.wichers at owasp.org> wrote:
> >>> I think two of the reasons we are thinking about DC (again) is:
> >>>
> >>> 1) it gives us more time to plan it, and
> >>> 2) Its closer to Europe which makes it easier for people in Europe
> >to
> >>> attend.
> >>>
> >>> I simply don't think there is any feasible way to move it up to the
> >Irvine
> >>> conference because it's simply too soon.
> >>>
> >>> But I do share your concerns as well. There really is no ideal
> >solution to
> >>> this issue. We could wait until OWASP Ireland next year, but that
> >is
> >>> probably too far away.
> >>>
> >>> -Dave
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: owasp-leaders-bounces at lists.owasp.org
> >>> [mailto:owasp-leaders-bounces at lists.owasp.org] On Behalf Of Tin Zaw
> >>> Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 1:34 PM
> >>> To: owasp-leaders at lists.owasp.org
> >>> Subject: Re: [Owasp-leaders] Global Summit and AppSec USA
> >>>
> >>> Michael,
> >>>
> >>> I totally share your concern and I am glad you raised the issue.
> >>>
> >>> If you have time, let's chat around 4:30 today?
> >>>
> >>> Thanks.
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 9:25 AM, Michael Coates
> >>> <michael.coates at owasp.org> wrote:
> >>>> All,
> >>>>
> >>>> I was a bit surprised to see that the global summit for 2010 is
> >not
> >>>> going to be held at 2010 AppSec USA (Irvine). Instead it appears
> >the
> >>>> summit will be at the regional conference - AppSec DC 2010 in
> >November.
> >>>>
> >>>> http://www.owasp.org/index.php/Category:OWASP_AppSec_Conference
> >>>>
> >>>> I raised the concern a few months back about the proximity of two
> >major
> >>>> OWASP conferences in the same region. The "big" US conference is
> >AppSec
> >>>> USA and held in September while AppSec DC is being held in
> >November.
> >>>> Aside from the potential concern of splitting attendees, I'm also
> >a bit
> >>>> concerned that the global summit event may not be as well attended
> >since
> >>>> many OWASP'ers have already committed to AppSec USA.
> >>>>
> >>>> Perhaps this isn't yet set in stone. If not, I would recommend
> >>>> considering holding the global summit in Irvine. Also, this would
> >be
> >>>> the second year in a row that the global summit is in the US. We
> >should
> >>>> be careful to not become too geographically restricted in these
> >events.
> >>>> Holding the summit in various locations throughout the world
> >increases
> >>>> our commitment to a worldwide organization.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Any thoughts from others?
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Michael Coates
> >>>> OWASP
> >>>>
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> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Tin Zaw, CISSP, CSSLP
> >>> Chapter Leader and President, OWASP Los Angeles Chapter
> >>> Co-Chair, AppSec USA 2010 Program Committee -- www.appsecUSA.org
<http://www.appsecusa.org/>
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> >>> LinkedIn: <http://www.linkedin.com/in/tinzaw>
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