[Owasp-board] FW: Job Posting

Kate Hartmann kate.hartmann at owasp.org
Fri Sep 12 17:49:31 UTC 2008

If they are an IT company searching out security professionals, could we
offer them some sort of discount for corporate membership or other
professional level of commitment?  I don't think that recruiting headhunters
will agree to participate in OWASP.


Just my thought.


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[mailto:owasp-board-bounces at lists.owasp.org] On Behalf Of Sebastien
Sent: Friday, September 12, 2008 12:12 PM
To: jeff.williams at owasp.org; OWASP Foundation Board List
Subject: Re: [Owasp-board] FW: Job Posting


Is there another way to block headhunters instead of asking money?






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[mailto:owasp-board-bounces at lists.owasp.org] On Behalf Of Jeff Williams
Sent: 12 September 2008 18:08
To: 'OWASP Foundation Board List'
Subject: [Owasp-board] FW: Job Posting


Hi Board,


Here's a simple question - should we lower the Job Board posting amount from
$250 to something much lower, say $25.  Currently we're getting 1 or 2
postings a month.  I find it hard to imagine that cost actually preventing a
company like eTrade! from posting, but perhaps it appears too commercial?




From: Jeff Williams [mailto:jeff.williams at owasp.org] 
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 8:49 PM
To: 'Ross, Russell'
Cc: 'brian at appsecconsulting.com'
Subject: RE: Job Posting


Hi Ross,


The only reason for the charge is to minimize abuse by headhunters wanting
to exploit OWASP to make money. We work extremely hard to keep commercial
interests out of OWASP. We believe this increases our independence and
allows us to keep our output objective.


I'm not sure how our rate compares to the going rate, and I'm not sure it's
important anyway.  We haven't been getting that much traction with our page,
so perhaps the rate is too high.  I'm going to take the idea of lowering the
charge to the board, and I don't see any reason why we wouldn't do that.
What charge do you think would be appropriate.


Please feel free to contact me with any questions or ideas about how we can
make OWASP better.  I appreciate the feedback.






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From: Ross, Russell [mailto:rross at etrade.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 11:26 AM
To: owasp at owasp.org
Cc: brian at appsecconsulting.com
Subject: Job Posting


To whom it may concern; 

I am the CISO for E*Trade Financial and have a job opening for a Sr.
Application Security Specialist.  I was just told by the hiring manager for
this position that OWASP charges $250 to post a job for 30 days - why in the
world would OWASP charge a fee to post a job opening?  That just doesn't
make any sense to me.

I am also on the Board of Directors for the Silicon Valley Chapter of the
ISSA and as a service to our members we post openings on our web site at no
charge.  We believe this assists our members find employment opportunities
when needed.

I would hope that OWASP could do the same. 

Russell H. Ross CISSP, CISM
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