[Owasp-board] FW: Job Posting

Fri Sep 12 16:11:49 UTC 2008

Is there another way to block headhunters instead of asking money?

regards

Seba

From: owasp-board-bounces at lists.owasp.org
[mailto:owasp-board-bounces at lists.owasp.org] On Behalf Of Jeff Williams
Sent: 12 September 2008 18:08
To: 'OWASP Foundation Board List'
Subject: [Owasp-board] FW: Job Posting

Hi Board,

Here's a simple question - should we lower the Job Board posting amount
from $250 to something much lower, say $25.  Currently we're getting 1
or 2 postings a month.  I find it hard to imagine that cost actually
preventing a company like eTrade! from posting, but perhaps it appears
too commercial?

--Jeff

From: Jeff Williams [mailto:jeff.williams at owasp.org] 
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 8:49 PM
To: 'Ross, Russell'
Cc: 'brian at appsecconsulting.com'
Subject: RE: Job Posting

Hi Ross,

The only reason for the charge is to minimize abuse by headhunters
wanting to exploit OWASP to make money. We work extremely hard to keep
commercial interests out of OWASP. We believe this increases our
independence and allows us to keep our output objective.

I'm not sure how our rate compares to the going rate, and I'm not sure
it's important anyway.  We haven't been getting that much traction with
our page, so perhaps the rate is too high.  I'm going to take the idea
of lowering the charge to the board, and I don't see any reason why we
wouldn't do that.  What charge do you think would be appropriate.

Please feel free to contact me with any questions or ideas about how we
can make OWASP better.  I appreciate the feedback.

Thanks,

--Jeff

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From: Ross, Russell [mailto:rross at etrade.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 11:26 AM
To: owasp at owasp.org
Cc: brian at appsecconsulting.com
Subject: Job Posting

To whom it may concern; 

I am the CISO for E*Trade Financial and have a job opening for a Sr.
Application Security Specialist.  I was just told by the hiring manager
for this position that OWASP charges $250 to post a job for 30 days -
why in the world would OWASP charge a fee to post a job opening?  That
just doesn't make any sense to me.

I am also on the Board of Directors for the Silicon Valley Chapter of
the ISSA and as a service to our members we post openings on our web
site at no charge.  We believe this assists our members find employment
opportunities when needed.

I would hope that OWASP could do the same. 

Thanks, 
Russ 
Russell H. Ross CISSP, CISM
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