[Global_education_committee] [GPC] Online Committee member questionaire
dinis.cruz at owasp.org
Mon Sep 21 13:51:08 EDT 2009
Hi Committees (Education, Industry, Chapter, Projects, Membership,
Since I already sent the email below (by mistake) to the Eduction committee,
I might as well also send it to you guys :)
Probably it would had been nicer for this to be done directly to you, but
hey, one might as well take this opportunity to make sure you all are aware
of what we are trying to do.
Btw, if this is the first time you (Committee member) heard about this, make
sure you beat up your OWASP Board representative since we have talked
several times about this over there, and voted to move forward with this
Check out the email thread below, which (I think) has a good view of what
the objectives of what we (the OWASP Board) are trying to do.
And making sure that I address Jason's worries*, this is not a GPC activity,
but it is an OWASP Board activity.* The only reason we are doing this via
the GPC is because, the GPC is the Committee that I am mainly involved with,
and because Matt and Paulo 'volunteered' to handle this :)
The current version of the questionnaire is here:
please DON'T fill it in yet.
If you have any comments about this, please send them to ME (dinis) or Matt
(CCed) or your favorite OWASP Board member, i.e. don't send feedback to
Paulo :) (since he is already swamped with the conversion of OWASP Projects
into the WIKI template).
A final point I would like to make, is that although these processes of
public evaluations can be (a little bit) painful, they also represent a
great opportunity to show the world the great world we are doing at the
multiple OWASP Committees (and where necessary, to identify the areas were a
particular Committee needs help (which should encourage new Committee
members to come forward)
Looking forward to your comments, or your (silent) approval of this idea :)
2009/9/21 dinis cruz <dinis.cruz at owasp.org>
> Jason, I understand your worries, but this questionnaire and the 'public
> review of OWASP leadership' performance is also very important to build a
> strong OWASP community.
> Remember that as the value of being associated with OWASP (as a project
> leader, chapter leader, committee member or board member) grows, the more we
> have to make sure that the people who can claim such leadership tag DO
> deserve that tag. And if we DON'T do that, the value of OWASP leadership
> gets diluted to the average of the lowest-common-denominator of those
> We (OWASP) need to do this type of review for all leadership positions. The
> reason we are starting with the Committee members is because it is the
> 'easier' of them all (i.e. when compared to chapters, projects and board)
> Once we get this review right, the next in line is the review of the
> Chapter's leadership. Remember that if there are any problems raised by this
> review, those problems WERE ALREADY THERE, and are time-bombs that WILL
> explode in the future (by raising the problems earlier (via the
> questionnaire), we hopefully defuse some of those issues and will be able to
> handle them in a professional, independent and transparent way).
> What I like about this 'public review' is that it allows for a transparent
> analysis of what is going on, and allows OWASP to promote the great work
> done by the (in this case) selected Committee individuals (one of the
> outcomes that I would like to see at the end of this questionnaire is a list
> of '*Outstanding work performed by Committee'* members, so that we (OWASP)
> *c**an publicly thank them** (and their employers)* for their time,
> effort, energy and deliverables (Jason, I expect to see you on this list :)
> We can talk about this tonight, but I really don't want to cover the WHY
> and prefer to focus on the HOW.
> One point I would like to stress, is that when Matt (who volunteered to
> take this task) and Paulo execute this, they will do it as representatives
> of the 'OWASP Board' and not as GPC members.
> 2009/9/21 Jason Li <jason.li at owasp.org>
> Before we dive into this, I think we need to start playing the PR game with
>> our committee.
>> We're already getting flack on the leaders list based on the project
>> This committee member evaluation doesn't really come under the
>> responsibility of the GPC and given the current perception, I don't think
>> it's in our interests to associate ourselves as the managers or purveyor's
>> of this evaluation The committee member evaluation proposal, while
>> necessary, is going up the same line of adding overhead and bureaucracy to
>> The GPC should not be seen as a committee that just sits around and makes
>> things more complicated for everyone without adding any value.
>> Of course I know that's not what we do - but what we're perceived to do is
>> almost as important as what we actually do when it comes to fostering a
>> strong OWASP community.
>> On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 1:02 PM, dinis cruz <dinis.cruz at owasp.org> wrote:
>>> Matt and Paulo
>>> On the topic of
>>> https://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?formkey=ckdDbXE0bkxPM3dkbDZvSmFNWVBGcnc6MAwe need to beta test this before we send it to all Committee members.
>>> Btw, Paulo (or Matt), you have the emails of all current Committee
>>> Note: We must make sure Kate is involved in this, since managing the
>>> Committee members is part of her world :)
>>> Global-projects-committee mailing list
>>> Global-projects-committee at lists.owasp.org
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