[Global_conference_committee] **TIME SENSITIVE** GCC Policy Exception?

[Jason Li]

It seems to me that it's just a matter of perception.

AppSecUSA has the extra space available and it's not going to interfere with
any existing scheduled classes.

It would be no different than had AppSecUSA "rented" out their extra space
to the company and the company used that space to bring in a trainer for
their own private training session. In a sense, the training revenue
generated is the "rent" being charging by AppSecUSA for use of their space.
Their private training session doesn't have to be listed as an official part
of the conference, does it?

Granted I haven't followed all the issues, but it's just a thought to
alleviate Tom's concerns about openness.

-Jason

On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 12:41 PM, Tom Brennan <tomb at owasp.org> wrote:

> Agreed, but not the context of a conference it gets tricky.  Your promoting
> a open organization and training as part of the conference and then you have
> a closed class... mixed messages.  This is a separate topic from conference
>  activities.
>
>
> On Jun 4, 2011, at 12:35 PM, Dave Wichers wrote:
>
> I think it’s perfectly OK for OWASP to broker such a class, and get their
> cut of the total deal. What a great way for OWASP to generate more revenue
> for itself. As long as we don’t shut the doors on the existing open classes,
> then I see no  problem with this.
>
> -Dave
>
>  *From:* global_conference_committee-bounces at lists.owasp.org [mailto:
> global_conference_committee-bounces at lists.owasp.org] *On Behalf Of *Tom
> Brennan
> *Sent:* Friday, June 03, 2011 6:20 PM
> *To:* Mark Bristow
> *Cc:* global_conference_committee; Eoin
> *Subject:* Re: [Global_conference_committee] **TIME SENSITIVE** GCC Policy
> Exception?
>
> O = Open
>
> If they want a private class - hire one of the many providers that are
> corporate supporters after sampling there classes and getting feedback.
>
> Problem solved.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Jun 3, 2011, at 6:17 PM, Mark Bristow <mark.bristow at owasp.org> wrote:
>
> Should be united they had already selected there classes.  This is truly an
> add-on to the already planned classes
>
> Mark Bristow
> Global Conferences Committee, Chair
> mark.bristow at owasp.org
> (703) 596-5175
>
> Sent concisely from my wireless device
>
> ----- Reply message -----
> From: "John Wilander" <john.wilander at owasp.org>
> To: "Mark Bristow" <mark.bristow at owasp.org>
> Cc: "Benjamin Tomhave" <benjamin.tomhave at owasp.org>, "Cassio Goldschmidt"
> <cassio at owasp.org>, "Eoin" <eoin.keary at owasp.org>, "Kate Hartmann" <
> kate.hartmann at owasp.org>, "Lucas Ferreira" <lucas.ferreira at owasp.org>,
> "Mohd Fazli Azran" <fazli at owasp.org>, "Neil Matatall" <neil at owasp.org>,
> "Ralph Durkee" <ralph.durkee at owasp.org>, "Richard Greenberg" <
> richard.greenberg at owasp.org>, "Sarah Baso" <sarah.baso at owasp.org>,
> "global_conference_committee" <global_conference_committee at lists.owasp.org
> >
> Subject: **TIME SENSITIVE** GCC Policy Exception?
> Date: Fri, Jun 3, 2011 5:18 pm
>
>
>
> 2011/6/3 Mark Bristow <mark.bristow at owasp.org>
>
> organize a 2-day training class, based on OWASP materials, at the
> conference in addition to our other classes.
>
>
> Since it's in *addition* to all the open courses it's a win-win on the
> surface. But if the highest rated trainers (or worse, the only skilled
> trainers on either of these two topics) skip the open classes and opt for
> the pre-booked, solid profit classes the community is missing out on
> training that would otherwise be, hence not an *addition*. In such a case
> I see trouble ahead, such as complaints from attendees as well as other
> trainers.
>
> To avoid that we should not let trainers know ahead of submitting their
> proposals and we should toss a coin who gets to give these classes and who
> gets to give the open ones.
>
>    Regards, John
>
> --
> John Wilander, https://twitter.com/johnwilander
> Chapter co-leader OWASP Sweden, http://owaspsweden.blogspot.com
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