[Global_conference_committee] ACTION REQUIRED: New "Rochester Security Summit " event application

Mon Apr 4 16:09:59 EDT 2011

So we do not have a partnering agreement then?  This is an ISSA event which
your asking OWASP to support?

On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 3:45 PM, Ralph Durkee <ralph.durkee at owasp.org> wrote:

>  I'm CC-ing Andrea Cogliati, as he was last year and still is the OWASP
> Rochester Chapter President, and was the primary contact.
>
> There was no profit/loss agreement, so there was no opportunity for a loss
> for OWASP.  After the event Rochester ISSA shared revenue with OWASP through
> the Rochester Chapter donate paypal.   I think the cost of the shwag was
> subtracted from that amount, and the rest was allocated to the Rochester
> Chapter.
>
> -- Ralph
>
> On 4/4/2011 3:23 PM, Mark Bristow wrote:
>
> How did profit/loss sharing work?
>
> On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 3:16 PM, Ralph Durkee <ralph.durkee at owasp.org>wrote:
>
>>  There wasn't a formal agreement last year, but through email the
>> agreement was pretty much the same as what is proposed for this year, except
>> that the lanyards and give-aways were for 200 attendees instead of 300.  Tom
>> B was scheduled to speak, but had to cancel due to a conflict, so OWASP only
>> cover the cost of one speaker instead of 2 last year, but the plan was for 2
>> speakers last year.
>>
>> -- Ralph
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 4/4/2011 3:06 PM, Tom Brennan wrote:
>>
>> Show him last years "agreement"
>>
>> On Apr 4, 2011, at 1:45 PM, Ralph Durkee <ralph.durkee at owasp.org> wrote:
>>
>>   By hard $ are you referring to something other than shwag give-aways or
>> speaker?
>>
>> On 4/4/2011 2:01 PM, Mark Bristow wrote:
>>
>> Well this is a different type then others we have actively working.
>>
>> When we are asked to put up hard $ as a partner, there is usually a
>> description of how the profits/loss will be distributed.
>>
>>  On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 1:57 PM, Ralph Durkee <ralph.durkee at owasp.org>wrote:
>>
>>>  Agreed on the thousands, the concept was that each provides comparable
>>> value estimated at about $3,100 in the agreement.   How is this much
>>> different from other partner agreements?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 4/4/2011 1:37 PM, Mark Bristow wrote:
>>>
>>> Ralph,
>>>
>>> I'd disagree.  It appears that OWASP is being asked to bring significant
>>> (at least for us) resources for this event.  I'd like to know if/how we plan
>>> to recover those costs and what recovery schedule is between the different
>>> organizations.  We may have done it a bit more loosly in the past, however
>>> we are going to need to work to get a better handle on these types events
>>> where OWASP has a more active participation beyond a co-marketing agreement.
>>>
>>> Looking at the agreement, OWASP is being asked to provide:
>>>
>>>    - 300 Attendees of Schwag
>>>    - 2 Speakers
>>>    - 300 Attendees of Lanyards
>>>    - Standard "booth" stuff (Promotional materials for vendor table,
>>>    co-marketing items)
>>>
>>> 300 Schwag and Lanyards can cost thousands of dollars in addition to
>>> thousands of dollars in travel for speakers.
>>>
>>> -Mark
>>>
>>> On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 1:19 PM, Ralph Durkee <ralph.durkee at owasp.org>wrote:
>>>
>>>>  They talked about it, and the RSS, ISSA and local OWASP leadership
>>>> didn't seem to think the formal revenue loss/share agreement was not
>>>> appropriate, necessary or fit well with the typical partnership agreement.
>>>> We didn't have a formal agreement last year, and yet there was informal
>>>> revenue sharing through the chapter donation.  For one thing it would seem
>>>> inappropriate for the GCC / and/or the OWASP board to agree to a potential
>>>> revenue loss, for a third party conference.  it certainly brings a lot of
>>>> complexity to something that should be a simple agreement similar to other
>>>> partner conferences.
>>>>
>>>> -- Ralph
>>>>
>>>> On 4/4/2011 10:52 AM, Mark Bristow wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Ralph.  I just looked over the partner agreement.  What are the splits
>>>> for profits/sponsorship dollars from the conference?  I noticed this was not
>>>> in there.
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 9:54 PM, Ralph Durkee <ralph.durkee at owasp.org>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>  Yes it was reviewed in a meeting Monday with local OWASP leadership
>>>>> and tonight with the RSS leadership, next the ISSA officers.  Hope to have
>>>>> it ready for committee review by Friday.
>>>>>
>>>>> -- Ralph
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 3/23/2011 5:17 PM, Mark Bristow wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Ralph,
>>>>>
>>>>> Any movement on that partner agreement?
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 11:50 AM, OWASP Conference System <
>>>>> conferences at owasp.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Global Conferences Committee,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A new event "Rochester Security Summit " on 2011-10-04 to 2011-10-05
>>>>>> has been submitted for review.  Additional details are below:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Name: Rochester Security Summit
>>>>>> Type: Partner Event
>>>>>> Details: http://ocms.owasptools.org/events/26
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Venue: Hyatt
>>>>>> Event URL: http://www.rochestersecurity.org/
>>>>>> Host Chapter: Rochester OWASP
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Rochester Chapter of the Information Systems Security Association
>>>>>> (ISSA), in association with  Rochester Chapter of the Open Web Application
>>>>>> Security Project (OWASP), is pleased to announce that the 6th Annual
>>>>>> Security Summit will be held Tuesday October 4th and Wednesday October 5th,
>>>>>> 2011 in Rochester NY. The conference will be held 8:00 AM to 5:00 PM each
>>>>>> day.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Partner Org: Rochester ISSA Chapter
>>>>>> Facility Cost: 0.00
>>>>>> Operations Cost: 0.00
>>>>>> Partner Agreement: TBD
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://ocms.owasptools.org/events/26
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> The OCMS System
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>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Mark Bristow
>>>>> (703) 596-5175
>>>>> mark.bristow at owasp.org
>>>>>
>>>>> OWASP Global Conferences Committee Chair - http://is.gd/5MTvF
>>>>> OWASP DC Chapter Co-Chair - http://is.gd/5MTwu
>>>>> AppSec DC Organizer - https://www.appsecdc.org
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Mark Bristow
>>>> (703) 596-5175
>>>> mark.bristow at owasp.org
>>>>
>>>> OWASP Global Conferences Committee Chair - http://is.gd/5MTvF
>>>> OWASP DC Chapter Co-Chair - http://is.gd/5MTwu
>>>> AppSec DC Organizer - https://www.appsecdc.org
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Mark Bristow
>>> (703) 596-5175
>>> mark.bristow at owasp.org
>>>
>>> OWASP Global Conferences Committee Chair - http://is.gd/5MTvF
>>> OWASP DC Chapter Co-Chair - http://is.gd/5MTwu
>>> AppSec DC Organizer - https://www.appsecdc.org
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Mark Bristow
>> (703) 596-5175
>> mark.bristow at owasp.org
>>
>> OWASP Global Conferences Committee Chair - http://is.gd/5MTvF
>> OWASP DC Chapter Co-Chair - http://is.gd/5MTwu
>> AppSec DC Organizer - https://www.appsecdc.org
>>
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>
>
> --
> Mark Bristow
> (703) 596-5175
> mark.bristow at owasp.org
>
> OWASP Global Conferences Committee Chair - http://is.gd/5MTvF
> OWASP DC Chapter Co-Chair - http://is.gd/5MTwu
> AppSec DC Organizer - https://www.appsecdc.org
>
>

-- 
Mark Bristow
(703) 596-5175
mark.bristow at owasp.org

OWASP Global Conferences Committee Chair - http://is.gd/5MTvF
OWASP DC Chapter Co-Chair - http://is.gd/5MTwu
AppSec DC Organizer - https://www.appsecdc.org
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