[Global_conference_committee] Committee Member admission to conferences
Mark Bristow
mark.bristow at owasp.org
Thu Sep 23 10:48:26 EDT 2010
I'll get it on the wiki under the HTHAC page and include it in the upcomming
ASDC blast email.
-Mark
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 8:43 AM, Dave Wichers <dave.wichers at owasp.org>wrote:
> Kate,
>
> The offer for all leaders to attend OWASP events for free means they don't
> have to pay OWASP to get in to the event. It does not mean we pay their
> travel expenses. Only in very limited circumstances would we be doing that,
> so this new policy should have a nominal financial impact on OWASP.
>
> -Dave
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dinis cruz [mailto:dinis.cruz at owasp.org]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 11:57 PM
> To: Kate Hartmann
> Cc: Tin Zaw; Dave Wichers; global_conference_committee; Alison McNamee
> Subject: Re: [Global_conference_committee] Committee Member admission to
> conferences
>
> I would say that we should start using the budget areas we we defined
> at the last Board meeting so that each of these expenses can be placed
> on a 'financial bucket'. That way we can analyse their use in context
> with the other expenses/investments
>
> Btw, the OotM is now part of the 30k budget allocated to the
> 'projects, chapters and committees' (with the caveat that an Owasp
> Leader cannot self approve travel expenses (I.e the
> request/authorisation/ownership needs to come from a chapter or
> committee member)
>
> Dinis
>
> On 22 Sep 2010, at 20:35, Kate Hartmann <kate.hartmann at owasp.org> wrote:
>
> > The cost that needs to be determined is not really the cost admission to
> the
> > conference - that is really nominal - maybe a cup of coffee and a soggy
> > sandwich. What we need to agree on are the supplemental costs
> > (travel/hotel) since that's where the totals run up.
> >
> > Dinis, we had discusses putting a "cap" per leader/committee member per
> > event. Probably time to revisit the uses of the OOTM funds? I think
> that,
> > considering the energy I saw in CA, it is well worth our investment to
> > facilitate gathering of our leadership in all areas, whether it be summit
> > related, conference related, or just hands on working groups for a day or
> > so. The opportunity to for us to define the process by which we empower
> our
> > leaders to drive our mission.
> >
> > Kate Hartmann
> > Operations Director
> > 301-275-9403
> > www.owasp.org
> > Skype: Kate.hartmann1
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: global_conference_committee-bounces at lists.owasp.org
> > [mailto:global_conference_committee-bounces at lists.owasp.org] On Behalf
> Of
> > Tin Zaw
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 1:49 PM
> > To: Dave Wichers
> > Cc: global_conference_committee; Alison McNamee
> > Subject: Re: [Global_conference_committee] Committee Member admission to
> > conferences
> >
> > I agree with Dave's comment. We should continue that tradition. For
> AppSec
> > US 2010, the real actual cost was food, but if a significant number (50+)
> of
> > leaders showed up, there could be additional cost for venue, as we would
> > have to secure more space.
> >
> > In any case, leaders' participation is well worth the cost.
> >
> > On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 10:41 AM, Dave Wichers <dave.wichers at owasp.org>
> > wrote:
> >> I think it should come out of the conference budget. Otherwise
> >> tracking and moving all this around is too much of a hassle.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> The actual real cost of this policy to the conference is simply food
> >> for 1 more person. We don't expect hordes of leaders to attend any
> >> particular event so overall we expect the actual impact to be nominal,
> >> and the benefit to OWASP to be far more valuable than the actual cost.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -Dave
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> From: global_conference_committee-bounces at lists.owasp.org
> >> [mailto:global_conference_committee-bounces at lists.owasp.org] On Behalf
> >> Of Mark Bristow
> >> Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 1:27 PM
> >> To: Michael Coates
> >> Cc: global_conference_committee; Alison McNamee
> >> Subject: Re: [Global_conference_committee] Committee Member admission
> >> to conferences
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Absolutely agree. I just want to be clear on the policy and then get
> >> it up on the wiki asap.
> >>
> >> On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 1:17 PM, Michael Coates
> >> <michael.coates at owasp.org>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> This sounds like something that should be added to the conference
> >> template documents. I do remember the email from Dinis about this a
> >> few months back, but I can also see how many people may have missed it.
> >>
> >> Michael Coates
> >>
> >> OWASP
> >>
> >> On 9/22/10 10:12 AM, dinis cruz wrote:
> >>
> >> Alison, can you explain how this worked for the past conferences?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Operationally I remember that Kate would give the leaders a special
> >> CVent code
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Dinis Cruz
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 22 September 2010 18:07, Mark Bristow <mark.bristow at owasp.org
> >>
> >> <mailto:mark.bristow at owasp.org>> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> If this is a policy already it's news to me, but I certainly
> >> welcome it. I
> >>
> >> didn't think that Leaders got free admission unless it was a
> >> Summit event.
> >>
> >> Do the reciepts for these free admissions come from the event
> >> budget (as the
> >>
> >> Board costs do) or from the OWASP Foundation budget (It's all
> >> owasp's money,
> >>
> >> but for book keeping purposes).
> >>
> >> -Mark
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 12:59 PM, dinis cruz <dinis.cruz at owasp.org
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> <mailto:dinis.cruz at owasp.org>> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> We already do this :)
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> In fact at the moment ALL OWASP leaders (which include the
> >> Committee
> >>
> >> members) have free entrance to ALL OWASP events worldwide.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> The current discussion at the Board (based on the new budget
> >> and
> >>
> >> financial model) is how much financial support we should give
> >> to the
> >>
> >> Committee members and past Conference Organizers
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Dinis Cruz
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 22 September 2010 17:48, Lucas Ferreira
> >> <lucas.ferreira at owasp.org
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> <mailto:lucas.ferreira at owasp.org>> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I agree. We need more people participating at the
> committees.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Lucas
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 13:21, Mark Bristow
> >> <mark.bristow at owasp.org
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> <mailto:mark.bristow at owasp.org>> wrote:
> >>
> >> > GCC,
> >>
> >> >
> >>
> >> > I'd like to propose a new policy. As some of the
> >> senior leaders
> >>
> >> of OWASP I
> >>
> >> > would like to propose that all Committee Members be
> >> allowed free
> >>
> >> admission
> >>
> >> > into OWP events. I think it's important to allow our
> >> committee
> >>
> >> members to
> >>
> >> > be able to access OWASP attendees if they are able to
> >> make it to
> >>
> >> an event
> >>
> >> > and this will encourage that activity.
> >>
> >> >
> >>
> >> > Thoughts? Comments?
> >>
> >> >
> >>
> >> > -Mark
> >>
> >> >
> >>
> >> > --
> >>
> >> > Mark Bristow
> >>
> >> >
> >>
> >> > OWASP Global Conferences Committee Chair -
> >> http://is.gd/5MTvF
> >>
> >> > AppSec DC 2010 Organizer - https://www.appsecdc.org
> >>
> >> <https://www.appsecdc.org/>
> >>
> >> > OWASP DC Chapter Co-Chair - http://is.gd/5MTwu
> >>
> >> >
> >>
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> >>
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> >>
> >>
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> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> >
> >> https://lists.owasp.org/mailman/listinfo/global_conference_committee
> >>
> >> >
> >>
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >>
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> >>
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> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >> Mark Bristow
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> OWASP Global Conferences Committee Chair - http://is.gd/5MTvF
> >>
> >> AppSec DC 2010 Organizer - https://www.appsecdc.org
> >>
> >> OWASP DC Chapter Co-Chair - http://is.gd/5MTwu
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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> >> --
> >> Mark Bristow
> >>
> >> OWASP Global Conferences Committee Chair - http://is.gd/5MTvF AppSec
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> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Tin Zaw, CISSP, CSSLP
> > Chapter Leader and President, OWASP Los Angeles Chapter Co-Chair, AppSec
> USA
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Mark Bristow
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AppSec DC 2010 Organizer - https://www.appsecdc.org
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