[Global_conference_committee] Committee Member admission to conferences
Mark Bristow
mark.bristow at owasp.org
Wed Sep 22 23:58:53 EDT 2010
Dinis,
Is there an outline of these buckets for commitees to review? We need
to know and understabd thos to understand board direction and ve
effective.
-Mark
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On Sep 22, 2010, at 11:57 PM, dinis cruz <dinis.cruz at owasp.org> wrote:
> I would say that we should start using the budget areas we we defined
> at the last Board meeting so that each of these expenses can be placed
> on a 'financial bucket'. That way we can analyse their use in context
> with the other expenses/investments
>
> Btw, the OotM is now part of the 30k budget allocated to the
> 'projects, chapters and committees' (with the caveat that an Owasp
> Leader cannot self approve travel expenses (I.e the
> request/authorisation/ownership needs to come from a chapter or
> committee member)
>
> Dinis
>
> On 22 Sep 2010, at 20:35, Kate Hartmann <kate.hartmann at owasp.org>
> wrote:
>
>> The cost that needs to be determined is not really the cost
>> admission to the
>> conference - that is really nominal - maybe a cup of coffee and a
>> soggy
>> sandwich. What we need to agree on are the supplemental costs
>> (travel/hotel) since that's where the totals run up.
>>
>> Dinis, we had discusses putting a "cap" per leader/committee member
>> per
>> event. Probably time to revisit the uses of the OOTM funds? I
>> think that,
>> considering the energy I saw in CA, it is well worth our investment
>> to
>> facilitate gathering of our leadership in all areas, whether it be
>> summit
>> related, conference related, or just hands on working groups for a
>> day or
>> so. The opportunity to for us to define the process by which we
>> empower our
>> leaders to drive our mission.
>>
>> Kate Hartmann
>> Operations Director
>> 301-275-9403
>> www.owasp.org
>> Skype: Kate.hartmann1
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: global_conference_committee-bounces at lists.owasp.org
>> [mailto:global_conference_committee-bounces at lists.owasp.org] On
>> Behalf Of
>> Tin Zaw
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 1:49 PM
>> To: Dave Wichers
>> Cc: global_conference_committee; Alison McNamee
>> Subject: Re: [Global_conference_committee] Committee Member
>> admission to
>> conferences
>>
>> I agree with Dave's comment. We should continue that tradition. For
>> AppSec
>> US 2010, the real actual cost was food, but if a significant number
>> (50+) of
>> leaders showed up, there could be additional cost for venue, as we
>> would
>> have to secure more space.
>>
>> In any case, leaders' participation is well worth the cost.
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 10:41 AM, Dave Wichers <dave.wichers at owasp.org
>> >
>> wrote:
>>> I think it should come out of the conference budget. Otherwise
>>> tracking and moving all this around is too much of a hassle.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The actual real cost of this policy to the conference is simply food
>>> for 1 more person. We don’t expect hordes of leaders to attend any
>>> particular event so overall we expect the actual impact to be
>>> nominal,
>>> and the benefit to OWASP to be far more valuable than the actual
>>> cost.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -Dave
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: global_conference_committee-bounces at lists.owasp.org
>>> [mailto:global_conference_committee-bounces at lists.owasp.org] On
>>> Behalf
>>> Of Mark Bristow
>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 1:27 PM
>>> To: Michael Coates
>>> Cc: global_conference_committee; Alison McNamee
>>> Subject: Re: [Global_conference_committee] Committee Member
>>> admission
>>> to conferences
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Absolutely agree. I just want to be clear on the policy and then
>>> get
>>> it up on the wiki asap.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 1:17 PM, Michael Coates
>>> <michael.coates at owasp.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> This sounds like something that should be added to the conference
>>> template documents. I do remember the email from Dinis about this a
>>> few months back, but I can also see how many people may have
>>> missed it.
>>>
>>> Michael Coates
>>>
>>> OWASP
>>>
>>> On 9/22/10 10:12 AM, dinis cruz wrote:
>>>
>>> Alison, can you explain how this worked for the past conferences?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Operationally I remember that Kate would give the leaders a special
>>> CVent code
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Dinis Cruz
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 22 September 2010 18:07, Mark Bristow <mark.bristow at owasp.org
>>>
>>> <mailto:mark.bristow at owasp.org>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> If this is a policy already it's news to me, but I certainly
>>> welcome it. I
>>>
>>> didn't think that Leaders got free admission unless it was a
>>> Summit event.
>>>
>>> Do the reciepts for these free admissions come from the event
>>> budget (as the
>>>
>>> Board costs do) or from the OWASP Foundation budget (It's all
>>> owasp's money,
>>>
>>> but for book keeping purposes).
>>>
>>> -Mark
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 12:59 PM, dinis cruz
>>> <dinis.cruz at owasp.org
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> <mailto:dinis.cruz at owasp.org>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> We already do this :)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> In fact at the moment ALL OWASP leaders (which include the
>>> Committee
>>>
>>> members) have free entrance to ALL OWASP events worldwide.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The current discussion at the Board (based on the new budget
>>> and
>>>
>>> financial model) is how much financial support we should give
>>> to the
>>>
>>> Committee members and past Conference Organizers
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Dinis Cruz
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 22 September 2010 17:48, Lucas Ferreira
>>> <lucas.ferreira at owasp.org
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> <mailto:lucas.ferreira at owasp.org>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I agree. We need more people participating at the
>>> committees.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Lucas
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 13:21, Mark Bristow
>>> <mark.bristow at owasp.org
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> <mailto:mark.bristow at owasp.org>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> GCC,
>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>> I'd like to propose a new policy. As some of the
>>> senior leaders
>>>
>>> of OWASP I
>>>
>>>> would like to propose that all Committee Members be
>>> allowed free
>>>
>>> admission
>>>
>>>> into OWP events. I think it's important to allow our
>>> committee
>>>
>>> members to
>>>
>>>> be able to access OWASP attendees if they are able to
>>> make it to
>>>
>>> an event
>>>
>>>> and this will encourage that activity.
>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>> Thoughts? Comments?
>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>> -Mark
>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>> --
>>>
>>>> Mark Bristow
>>>
>>>>
>>>
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>>>
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>>
>>
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