[Global_conference_committee] Committee Member admission to conferences

[dinis cruz]

I would say that we should start using the budget areas we we defined
at the last Board meeting so that each of these expenses can be placed
on a 'financial bucket'. That way we can analyse their use in context
with the other expenses/investments

Btw, the OotM is now part of the 30k budget allocated to the
'projects, chapters and committees' (with the caveat that an Owasp
Leader cannot self approve travel expenses (I.e the
request/authorisation/ownership needs to come from a chapter or
committee member)

Dinis

On 22 Sep 2010, at 20:35, Kate Hartmann <kate.hartmann at owasp.org> wrote:

> The cost that needs to be determined is not really the cost admission to the
> conference - that is really nominal - maybe a cup of coffee and a soggy
> sandwich.  What we need to agree on are the supplemental costs
> (travel/hotel) since that's where the totals run up.
>
> Dinis, we had discusses putting a "cap" per leader/committee member per
> event.  Probably time to revisit the uses of the OOTM funds?  I think that,
> considering the energy I saw in CA, it is well worth our investment to
> facilitate gathering of our leadership in all areas, whether it be summit
> related, conference related, or just hands on working groups for a day or
> so.  The opportunity to for us to define the process by which we empower our
> leaders to drive our mission.
>
> Kate Hartmann
> Operations Director
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> www.owasp.org
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> [mailto:global_conference_committee-bounces at lists.owasp.org] On Behalf Of
> Tin Zaw
> Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 1:49 PM
> To: Dave Wichers
> Cc: global_conference_committee; Alison McNamee
> Subject: Re: [Global_conference_committee] Committee Member admission to
> conferences
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> I agree with Dave's comment. We should continue that tradition. For AppSec
> US 2010, the real actual cost was food, but if a significant number (50+) of
> leaders showed up, there could be additional cost for venue, as we would
> have to secure more space.
>
> In any case, leaders' participation is well worth the cost.
>
> On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 10:41 AM, Dave Wichers <dave.wichers at owasp.org>
> wrote:
>> I think it should come out of the conference budget. Otherwise
>> tracking and moving all this around is too much of a hassle.
>>
>>
>>
>> The actual real cost of this policy to the conference is simply food
>> for 1 more person. We don’t expect hordes of leaders to attend any
>> particular event so overall we expect the actual impact to be nominal,
>> and the benefit to OWASP to be far more valuable than the actual cost.
>>
>>
>>
>> -Dave
>>
>>
>>
>> From: global_conference_committee-bounces at lists.owasp.org
>> [mailto:global_conference_committee-bounces at lists.owasp.org] On Behalf
>> Of Mark Bristow
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 1:27 PM
>> To: Michael Coates
>> Cc: global_conference_committee; Alison McNamee
>> Subject: Re: [Global_conference_committee] Committee Member admission
>> to conferences
>>
>>
>>
>> Absolutely agree.  I just want to be clear on the policy and then get
>> it up on the wiki asap.
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 1:17 PM, Michael Coates
>> <michael.coates at owasp.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>> This sounds like something that should be added to the conference
>> template documents.  I do remember the email from Dinis about this a
>> few months back, but I can also see how many people may have missed it.
>>
>> Michael Coates
>>
>> OWASP
>>
>> On 9/22/10 10:12 AM, dinis cruz wrote:
>>
>> Alison, can you explain how this worked for the past conferences?
>>
>>
>>
>> Operationally I remember that Kate would give the leaders a special
>> CVent code
>>
>>
>>
>> Dinis Cruz
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 22 September 2010 18:07, Mark Bristow <mark.bristow at owasp.org
>>
>> <mailto:mark.bristow at owasp.org>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>     If this is a policy already it's news to me, but I certainly
>> welcome it.  I
>>
>>     didn't think that Leaders got free admission unless it was a
>> Summit event.
>>
>>     Do the reciepts for these free admissions come from the event
>> budget (as the
>>
>>     Board costs do) or from the OWASP Foundation budget (It's all
>> owasp's money,
>>
>>     but for book keeping purposes).
>>
>>     -Mark
>>
>>
>>
>>     On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 12:59 PM, dinis cruz <dinis.cruz at owasp.org
>>
>>
>>
>>     <mailto:dinis.cruz at owasp.org>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>         We already do this :)
>>
>>
>>
>>         In fact at the moment ALL OWASP leaders (which include the
>> Committee
>>
>>         members) have free entrance to ALL OWASP events worldwide.
>>
>>
>>
>>         The current discussion at the Board (based on the new budget
>> and
>>
>>         financial model) is how much financial support we should give
>> to the
>>
>>         Committee members and past Conference Organizers
>>
>>
>>
>>         Dinis Cruz
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>         On 22 September 2010 17:48, Lucas Ferreira
>> <lucas.ferreira at owasp.org
>>
>>
>>
>>         <mailto:lucas.ferreira at owasp.org>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>             I agree. We need more people participating at the committees.
>>
>>
>>
>>             Lucas
>>
>>
>>
>>             On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 13:21, Mark Bristow
>> <mark.bristow at owasp.org
>>
>>
>>
>>             <mailto:mark.bristow at owasp.org>> wrote:
>>
>>              > GCC,
>>
>>              >
>>
>>              > I'd like to propose a new policy.  As some of the
>> senior leaders
>>
>>             of OWASP I
>>
>>              > would like to propose that all Committee Members be
>> allowed free
>>
>>             admission
>>
>>              > into OWP events.  I think it's important to allow our
>> committee
>>
>>             members to
>>
>>              > be able to access OWASP attendees if they are able to
>> make it to
>>
>>             an event
>>
>>              > and this will encourage that activity.
>>
>>              >
>>
>>              > Thoughts?  Comments?
>>
>>              >
>>
>>              > -Mark
>>
>>              >
>>
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