[GPC] Draft diagram for releases/review
Matt Tesauro
mtesauro at gmail.com
Tue Oct 13 16:10:42 EDT 2009
Pravir,
Once again, excellent work. I have to say the hill (ramp?) style is
more clear to me but then again, I did the pencil drawing ;)
Suggestions/Comments:
* Not sure how to do this but visually its hard to see the dividing
lines between the three stages. I can see that the gray is getting
darker from left to right but I'm wondering if something more distinct
would help? Maybe reduce the coloration of the test rectangles and add
more color to the hills background (change from grey) Maybe make the
background a more transparent/opaque version of the boxes with the text.
Does any of this make sense?
* We almost need a 5th box for Stable as the line at the bottom looks
odd with the gap.
* Could we squish the two reviewers for stable into a single box? Maybe
have the two heads next to each other with one mostly obscured by the
one in front? The 3 stack of people looks a bit off for stable.
I'll read over the text again and provide any comments/suggestions when
I get a chance.
-
-- Matt Tesauro
OWASP Live CD Project Lead
http://www.owasp.org/index.php/Category:OWASP_Live_CD_Project
http://AppSecLive.org - Community and Download site
On Tue, 2009-10-13 at 10:48 -0700, Pravir Chandra wrote:
> Let's talk about all of these suggestions on the call today. I just
> moved things around into the "hill" arrangements, but havent' edited
> any of the boxes yet (attached). I like the suggestions, but let's
> discuss before I try a new rev.
>
>
> p.
>
> On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 9:11 AM, Matt Tesauro <mtesauro at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> Wow, I missed a bunch of emails while I was busy.
>
> Here's Matt's 2 cents (USD) on where I think we're at with
> this:
>
> * We appear to have consensus on the 'up the hill'
> representation. Lets
> see what Pravir can do to take my lame pencil work into the
> digital
> world.
>
> * I agree with the general principal that Pravir was shooting
> for -
> simplification of each quality stage. Lets hold off on
> specifics until
> Pravir cranks out a newer version. I think this will help
> keep the
> confusion down to a minimum.
>
> * We still have to investigate linking bits of the image to
> text to
> clarify what is meant. Some of the points raised can be
> addressed if we
> can work that out.
>
> * I agree that it may be tricky or impossible to do this for
> 'projects'
> as a whole. Once we settle on the design, we'll need to
> decide if a
> 'tools' and 'documents' version needs to be created.
>
> My suggestion: Keep the specific points you raised (e.g.
> replace
> 'Packaging' with 'Deliverables') and lets revisit those after
> Pravir
> creates version 2. He's seen these emails and I trust him to
> alter the
> next version accordingly.
>
> -
> -- Matt Tesauro
> OWASP Live CD Project Lead
> http://www.owasp.org/index.php/Category:OWASP_Live_CD_Project
> http://AppSecLive.org - Community and Download site
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, 2009-10-07 at 10:07 -0500, Brad Causey wrote:
> > Agreed.
> >
> > -Brad Causey
> > CISSP, MCSE, C|EH, CIFI, CGSP
> >
> > http://www.owasp.org
> > --
> > Never underestimate the time, expense, and effort an
> opponent will
> > expend to break a code. (Robert Morris)
> > --
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 10:00 AM, Leonardo Cavallari
> Militelli
> > <leonardocavallari at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Good work guys!
> > While Matt's designs skills are not that good
> compared to
> > Pravir's :) this "up the ladder" approach is much
> more clear
> > and intelligible than the other.
> >
> > Jason raised a point on too focused on tools rather
> docs.
> > Some small additions:
> > - licenses shall be the ones "accepted by" OWASP
> > www.owasp.org/index.php/OWASP_Licenses .
> > - Instead of Packaging I would say "Deliverables:
> Simple
> > package/documment with one-click download"
> > - Polish: for tools it's difficult to have a
> template GUI but
> > we should say here that docs projects should follow
> an OWASP
> > template (To be made).
> >
> > That's my 0,2 BRL :)
> >
> > Leo
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 10:38 AM, Matt Tesauro
> > <mtesauro at gmail.com> wrote:
> > OK. Pravir schooled me in the new fangled
> technology
> > called cell phone
> > camera. Here's the image of what I was
> thinking.
> >
> > If there are bits you can't read - let me
> know.
> > Pravir - feel free to
> > call my cell if you have questions. I also
> have some
> > ideas how to
> > simplify what I drew further if its still
> too busy.
> >
> > Also, it looks like I forgot to write 'Two
> reviewers'
> > above the two
> > stick figures close to the top, right.
> >
> > -
> > -- Matt Tesauro
> > OWASP Live CD Project Lead
> >
> http://www.owasp.org/index.php/Category:OWASP_Live_CD_Project
> > http://AppSecLive.org - Community and
> Download site
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, 2009-10-07 at 07:53 -0500, Matt
> Tesauro wrote:
> > > (1) I think we need to use your (aka
> Tango's) icons
> > for the Stable,
> > > Beta, Alpha releases and figure out where
> they can
> > go on the project
> > > information tab & maybe even the new (not
> yet made)
> > project page.
> > >
> > > (2) I agree with you that this is not as
> elegant as
> > your previous work.
> > > I actually have an idea to rework what you
> have into
> > a different
> > > style/format which may work better. It
> would take
> > me a volume of typing
> > > or I could send a drawing - so I'm looking
> for a
> > scanner up here at work
> > > and will send you a drawing as soon as I
> find one.
> > >
> > > -
> > > -- Matt Tesauro
> > > OWASP Live CD Project Lead
> > >
> >
> http://www.owasp.org/index.php/Category:OWASP_Live_CD_Project
> > > http://AppSecLive.org - Community and
> Download site
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, 2009-10-06 at 22:56 -0700, Pravir
> Chandra
> > wrote:
> > > > I'm not as happy with this one as the
> project
> > health diagram, but it
> > > > might do the trick. Take a look and send
> any
> > feedback!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > p.
> > > >
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