[Esapi-user] [Ws-strategic-planning] OWASP Leadership/Occupy Wall Street

Thomas Brennan tomb at owasp.org
Sun Oct 16 20:07:45 EDT 2011


He is not on the NYC board.

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On Oct 16, 2011, at 7:38 PM, "McGovern, James" <james.mcgovern at hp.com> wrote:

> Did he violate any of the OWASP by-laws? He did adhere to the principle making things open :-) 
> 
> OWASP doesn't focus on privacy (in a more broader sense) and therefore we collectively don't have a shared collective opinion.
> 
> My take on it is that I will more than likely visit the Occupy Hartford sometime this week out of curiousity and support for people who are bold enough to take a stand on something they have passion around and anyone is welcome to spy on me including Tom.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ws-strategic-planning-bounces at lists.owasp.org [mailto:ws-strategic-planning-bounces at lists.owasp.org] On Behalf Of Jeffrey Walton
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> Subject: [Ws-strategic-planning] OWASP Leadership/Occupy Wall Street
> 
> I'm very concerned that Thomas Ryan sits on the OWASP board. I clearly
> don't condone spying on private citizens, [illegally?] accessing mail
> servers, and participating in smear campaigns. Is this the sort of
> leadership the project wants?
> 
> "Meet the Guy Who Snitched on Occupy Wall Street to the FBI and NYPD",
> http://gawker.com/5850054/meet-the-guy-who-snitched-on-occupy-wall-street-to-the-fbi-and-nypd
> 
>    Since the Occupy Wall Street protest began on
>    September 17, New York security consultant
>    Thomas Ryan has been waging a campaign to
>    infiltrate and discredit the movement.
>    ...
> 
>    As part of their intelligence-gathering operation,
>    the [Ryan's] group gained access to a listserv used
>    by Occupy Wall Street organizers called
>    September17discuss... On Friday, Ryan leaked
>    thousands of September17discuss emails to
>    conservative blogger Andrew Breitbart, who is now
>    using them to try to smear Occupy Wall Street as
>    an anarchist conspiracy to disrupt global markets.
>    ...
> 
>    Interestingly, it was Ryan who revealed himself as a snitch.
>    We learned of these emails from the archive Ryan leaked
>    yesterday in the hopes of undermining the Occupy Wall
>    Street movement. In assembling the archive of
>    September17discuss emails, it appears he accidentally
>    included some of his own forwarded emails indicating he
>    was ratting out organizers.
>    ...
> 
>    Ryan said he knows Loyd through their mutual involvement
>    in the Open Web Application Security Project, a non-profit
>    computer security group of which Ryan is a board member.
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