[Committees-chairs] Top 10 Book Covers

[Jason Li]

Sarah,

I understand that the inside cover can be changed and rotated periodically,
but the actual physical printed copies with the dated inside cover *is*
permanent.

In 6-12 months time, when I open up my printed copy of the OWASP Top Ten to
show someone, it might seem a little silly to see that advertisement for
AppSec EU 2011 (long since passed) or the OWASP LiveCD project (which has
long since been renamed the WTE project).

That's why I favor generic content so that the printed copy itself doesn't
become date.

Again, just my opinion on "books".

-Jason

On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 10:34 AM, Sarah Baso <sarah.baso at owasp.org> wrote:

> Jason -
> The promotion/information that would be printed in the inside cover would
> not need to be permanent... if can be taken out any time.  For instance,
> AppSec USA had 1000 books printed to use as promotion for their conference
> this year and put their advertisement in the inside cover.  I want to have
> 500 printed now to have on stock for owasp chapters/events requesting
> merchandise because we are able to provide them much cheaper that way. It is
> $9.90 to get individual print copies on Lulu.com and we can get them for
> under $4.00 each this way.
>
> There is an urgency in that more and more people are requesting them as
> standard schwag, and yes, I would like to get some printed for the OWASP
> store at AppSec USA.  I am willing to work with the conference committee on
> putting together something for the inside cover and I could talk with you
> about doing the same.
>
> Regards,
> Sarah
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 9:24 AM, Jason Li <jason.li at owasp.org> wrote:
>
>> That's an interesting idea - but I'm not sure how I personally feel about
>> putting such OWASP promotion inside the book.
>>
>> On the one hand, it's great to promote OWASP. On the other hand, a book is
>> a rather persistent/permanent publication... hopefully the book will see a
>> long life of usage and as a result, any such promotion will become dated
>> (conferences pass, projects grow stale, etc). Moreover, when I think about
>> what a normal book does on the inside cover, it's usually either blank - or
>> it occasionally has a brief bio on the author. If we want to put something
>> on the inside cover, I would suggest a generic "About OWASP" blurb. Just my
>> humble opinion.
>>
>> With regards to professional services, I'm assuming that the urgency of
>> Kate's request is because we want to get these books printed for an upcoming
>> event (i.e. AppSecUSA?). If that's the case and we're under a time
>> constraint, then I would suggest we try to find someone willing to design
>> the inside cover for free or simply leave it as is.
>>
>> As you guys know, I'm all for scalable, repeatable processes. If we
>> have to fund professional services for this design, I think we will get
>> better value by commissioning a generic template for the comprehensive
>> layout of an OWASP book (typography, page layout, etc). Such a template
>> could be re-used by any OWASP docmentation project, rather than piecemeal
>> design for an individual project. Commissioning such a comp is on the GPC
>> todo list and was part of our budget request for 2011 - but it is a task
>> that we are not projecting to tackle until October or November at the
>> earliest.
>>
>> -Jason
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 9:44 AM, Kate Hartmann <kate.hartmann at owasp.org>wrote:
>>
>>> One item that was on the agenda for yesterday’s postponed call was a
>>> discussion on what we should put on the inside cover of the “stock” copies
>>> of the OWASP Top 10.  My suggestion would be one of two “flyers” created to
>>> advertise projects and/or conferences.  We could do one page with both
>>> topics or one page specifically for projects and one just for conferences.
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>>> Conferences page****
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>>> Combined projects and conferences page****
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>>> Secondly, should we enlist professional services for design of this
>>> page?  ****
>>>
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